Discussion
oj121 said:
Once again looking good....and looking good for a gold too. Seems to have progressed well in some of the disciplines she struggled in over the last few years (i.e shot) Let see if her jav has progressed too. Looks like one of the few gold medal track hopes along with dai greene.
OJ, let me introduce you to the concept of "mockers"...In future, shut up!
Highly unlikely that Ennis will win now, unless the Russian pulls up injured in the 800m. Below par first day from Jessica, but I'm not all that surprised that many of our athletes are below par in Daegu - there is so much focus on London 2012 in UK Athletics that I was expecting Daegu to be a bit flat for the Biritsh team.
As long as we don't pick up any new injuries, have a handful of finalists and collect a few medals (Farah (x2 perhaps), Turner(!), Ennis, Idowu, Greene) then I'll be pretty happy with the performance.
As long as we don't pick up any new injuries, have a handful of finalists and collect a few medals (Farah (x2 perhaps), Turner(!), Ennis, Idowu, Greene) then I'll be pretty happy with the performance.
Mick Hill according to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2011/08/anal...
Him not being at the (warm-up) track today seems strange, especially as it's well-known that the throws are her weakest events.
Him not being at the (warm-up) track today seems strange, especially as it's well-known that the throws are her weakest events.
Edited by ewenm on Tuesday 30th August 17:05
ewenm said:
Mick Hill according to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2011/08/anal...
Him not being at the (warm-up) track today seems strange, especially as it's well-known that the throws are her weakest events.
Mind you she did a PB in the shot. A bad day at the office perhaps. At the end of the day, she is still going to be the face of British track and field going into next year, and this one result is not the end of the world.Him not being at the (warm-up) track today seems strange, especially as it's well-known that the throws are her weakest events.
Edited by ewenm on Tuesday 30th August 17:05
PB in the 800 too, she was really going for it just had a bad day spear throwing. jess will comeback stronger i'm sure. fortunately come June 2012, there will be a good few medal contenders and some of the others can take the pressure. of course, the fact that she is gorgeous does have something to do with the media attention...
pablo said:
of course, the fact that she is gorgeous does have something to do with the media attention...
GORGEOUS?????? I don't know many males (and for that matter some females) who would kick her out of bed!On a serious note did you here Steve Backley last night on the radio?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/14720059...
I would also agree with him.
Inverness said:
pablo said:
of course, the fact that she is gorgeous does have something to do with the media attention...
GORGEOUS?????? I don't know many males (and for that matter some females) who would kick her out of bed!
hesnotthemessiah said:
Maybe the pressure of the entire nation resting on one's shoulders is having an effect?
I think it was just a bad day in the Javelin. She has acknowledged for a while that it's her weakest event and I'm sure she'll be stronger at it next year. She threw well earlier this year and it was good to see a PB in the shot and 800m. Her hurdles performance on day 1 was a bit below par too, so there are a few areas where she's perfectly capable of increasing her points score without making radical changes to an obviously successful training plan.hesnotthemessiah said:
Maybe the pressure of the entire nation resting on one's shoulders is having an effect?
Well if she wants the fame and fortune that comes with being a successful sportswoman then she also has to deal with the pressure and publicity. You can't separate them.ewenm said:
I think it was just a bad day in the Javelin. She has acknowledged for a while that it's her weakest event and I'm sure she'll be stronger at it next year. She threw well earlier this year and it was good to see a PB in the shot and 800m. Her hurdles performance on day 1 was a bit below par too, so there are a few areas where she's perfectly capable of increasing her points score without making radical changes to an obviously successful training plan.
It's all well and good turning up at the Trials and other major meets to do the 100m hurdles and high jump (two of her better events) then waving at the crowd and the cameras after good performances. Perhaps she should do more competitions with the weaker events like the shot and javelin to get experience of the pressure under strict competition conditions. Although it wouldn't look so good on the telly when she finished 12th out of twelve.over_the_hill said:
It's all well and good turning up at the Trials and other major meets to do the 100m hurdles and high jump (two of her better events) then waving at the crowd and the cameras after good performances. Perhaps she should do more competitions with the weaker events like the shot and javelin to get experience of the pressure under strict competition conditions. Although it wouldn't look so good on the telly when she finished 12th out of twelve.
So far in 2011 she has competed in 4 individual Javelin events and 4 individual Shot events (including the Trials - 10th Javelin and 7th Shot). I suspect it's more down to the TV director that you were unaware of her competing in her weaker events at the trials rather than her not doing them...For anyone interested in her (or any other athlete's) competition results: http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx...
ewenm said:
So far in 2011 she has competed in 4 individual Javelin events and 4 individual Shot events (including the Trials - 10th Javelin and 7th Shot). I suspect it's more down to the TV director that you were unaware of her competing in her weaker events at the trials rather than her not doing them...
For anyone interested in her (or any other athlete's) competition results: http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx...
Forgot to look on P-of-10. As well, she can do SP, HJ and hudles (60m) indoors unlike JT which needs to be outside so less opportunity. Also telling that the only two 800m marks (2.07/2.08) are both in Heptathlon. Most clubs would rip her arm off for a sub-2.10 performance in any T&F League, but it makes you wonder what she could get down to if she ran a few more and got race hardened.For anyone interested in her (or any other athlete's) competition results: http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx...
It's got less cosy in the last couple of years - more have come off lottery funding etc - and CvC is a bit of a taskmaster ...
Some athletes have gone backwards - witness Lisa Dobriskey, now coached by her husband ... why?
Some have come on leaps and bounds - Hannah England etc ... and Farah (now coached by hardman Salazar)
Shame you seem to have to move to the US to get better though what with the Hi-Perf centres we now have.
Some athletes have gone backwards - witness Lisa Dobriskey, now coached by her husband ... why?
Some have come on leaps and bounds - Hannah England etc ... and Farah (now coached by hardman Salazar)
Shame you seem to have to move to the US to get better though what with the Hi-Perf centres we now have.
johnxjsc1985 said:
I get pissed off big time when commentators talk about Ennis and say Silver is poor.FFS these are the very best athletes in the world and a Silver is such a wonderful achievement. We should give our athletes more support when they do well.
Do you think she's pleased?Randy Winkman said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I get pissed off big time when commentators talk about Ennis and say Silver is poor.FFS these are the very best athletes in the world and a Silver is such a wonderful achievement. We should give our athletes more support when they do well.
Do you think she's pleased?for the sake of a second or so, so was Hannah England. both are probably quite pleased with their efforts and Philips Idowu was beaten into second by the FIFTH LONGEST JUMP IN HISTORY FFS!
some respect is due i believe....
MikeyT said:
It's got less cosy in the last couple of years - more have come off lottery funding etc - and CvC is a bit of a taskmaster ...
Some athletes have gone backwards - witness Lisa Dobriskey, now coached by her husband ... why?
Some have come on leaps and bounds - Hannah England etc ... and Farah (now coached by hardman Salazar)
Shame you seem to have to move to the US to get better though what with the Hi-Perf centres we now have.
We will never be able to compete with the American collegiate system.Some athletes have gone backwards - witness Lisa Dobriskey, now coached by her husband ... why?
Some have come on leaps and bounds - Hannah England etc ... and Farah (now coached by hardman Salazar)
Shame you seem to have to move to the US to get better though what with the Hi-Perf centres we now have.
One example in a discipline I know a little about. Shot.
To be competitive in the PAC 10, ( West Coast college league, of 10 colleges ) you need to putt 18m plus.
The top guys in that league will be much better than that of course.
In the UK only 2 men have putt over 18m this season. And one of them is based in the US.
The fact that the US had 4 men in the shot final at Daegu speaks volumes. I know that throwing is the poor relation in track and field but it has reached the stage where we don't even have anyone in the UK who could make a decent college team!
Randy Winkman said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I get pissed off big time when commentators talk about Ennis and say Silver is poor.FFS these are the very best athletes in the world and a Silver is such a wonderful achievement. We should give our athletes more support when they do well.
Do you think she's pleased?Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff