The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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cslwannabe

1,522 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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Flying Rosscow!

I like 16x400 with 45s. Nice neat 4M of effort (near enough), 12 min recovery and rests are over so quickly don’t have time to think about anything other than the session.

Waitforme

1,310 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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I usually have a protein shake after a hard session, a fellow parkrunner says he swears by a daily creatine drink.
Any other advocates for it ?

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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cslwannabe said:
Flying Rosscow!

I like 16x400 with 45s. Nice neat 4M of effort (near enough), 12 min recovery and rests are over so quickly don’t have time to think about anything other than the session.
Haha, cheers! Starting to feel really good, just got to stay injury free!

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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Hilly and very windy 10km @ 43 min on Saturday morning, day off yesterday and then 9km easy this morning.

Got a busy week - track tomorrow night, circuits on Wednesday then London to see a show on Thursday night with the family and then a 5 mile charity trail race on Friday night followed by a 7 mile tempo run on Saturday. Then 36 hole golf comp on Sunday.

Somehow got to fit work in around all of this as well! biglaugh

cslwannabe

1,522 posts

184 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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Waitforme said:
I usually have a protein shake after a hard session, a fellow parkrunner says he swears by a daily creatine drink.
Any other advocates for it ?
Milk for me after a tough session and/or a banana. Ideally soon after - like within 20 minutes.

Some people add chocolate powder to milk and pretty much the same benefit as the majority of protein shakes for a fraction of the cost. I like milk but know many don’t.

ben5575

6,954 posts

236 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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Well my inconsistent training over the past two months, too much football beer and carp diet has funnily enough resulted in my fitness going to st.

I've only been managing around 10 miles and a couple of kickboxing classes per week. Ran 10k yesterday with a dicky achilles (another sign of my structural fitness falling off) a good 10 mins slower than I was in April.

I desperately need to get some big hills back in my life once my ankles sorts itself out - I've lost a lot of strength/hill fitness.

But I ran that 10k rather than sitting on my ass, so onwards and upwards and all that.

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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cslwannabe said:
Milk for me after a tough session and/or a banana. Ideally soon after - like within 20 minutes.

Some people add chocolate powder to milk and pretty much the same benefit as the majority of protein shakes for a fraction of the cost. I like milk but know many don’t.
Exactly what I do - pint of semi skimmed milk with 2 spoons of chocolate Nesquik and 2 spoons of dried milk powder (I use Nestle Nido low fat) . I’ll make this up before I go to track/go for a run and have it as soon as I finish the session/run. Plus it’s delicious!

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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Not sure about the creatine, limited evidence with regards endurance running (more so for sprinting).

Worrying side effect of hair loss though so I’m not risking it, I like my hair too much biglaugh

Waitforme

1,310 posts

179 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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I’ll not bother with the creatinine then , but I do like the whey protein ( vanilla flavour )
I normally have 2 x scoops + a banana blended with water after a workout, gives me 48g of protein.

Tim330

1,227 posts

227 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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What kind of strength training if any does anyone do to help with running?
After getting back to my 11 year ago parkrun pb last week just off increased mileage I was looking to incorporate some leg exercises into my routine.
I was thinking bodyweight squats, stepping onto and off my weight bench holding light dumbells, glute bridges. Anything else essential?

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Monday 8th July 2024
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Just found a bargain pair of Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen 9's at the local Adidas outlet for £50! Happy days.

JapanRed

1,581 posts

126 months

Tuesday 9th July 2024
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I’ve got a track 5km race on Friday evening this week.

Training has been going well so I’m going to push for a PB (currently 19:48).

With it being a track, how would you pace it? Even splits all round? Negative split? Anything else?

jasonrobertson86

1,138 posts

19 months

Tuesday 9th July 2024
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JapanRed said:
I’ve got a track 5km race on Friday evening this week.

Training has been going well so I’m going to push for a PB (currently 19:48).

With it being a track, how would you pace it? Even splits all round? Negative split? Anything else?
Get to 2.5km absolutely dying as if you need to stop the hold on for dear life and do everything in your power not to slow down.

jeremyc

25,823 posts

299 months

Tuesday 9th July 2024
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JapanRed said:
I’ve got a track 5km race on Friday evening this week.

Training has been going well so I’m going to push for a PB (currently 19:48).

With it being a track, how would you pace it? Even splits all round? Negative split? Anything else?
Are you trying to win the race, or treating it as a time trial and going for a PB? They demand different approaches.

To hit a target time the recommended approach would be to achieve a negative split if you can. Reality is you'll likely go off way too fast and have to try and hang on. hehe

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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jasonrobertson86 said:
Get to 2.5km absolutely dying as if you need to stop the hold on for dear life and do everything in your power not to slow down.
Crikey I'm not sure if that sounds like a solid race plan biglaugh

The jiffle king

7,202 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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Decent 5k last night in an inter-club series.

Happy with a speedy 17:40 and still only 5th for my club

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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Longer reps on track last night:

9 min @ 3:55/km pace
120 sec recovery
7 min @ 3:48/km pace
100 sec recovery
5 min @ 3:43/km pace
85 sec recovery
3 min @ 3:35/km pace
60 sec recovery
1 min @ 3:00/km pace

Felt pretty controlled throughout, actually think I could have knocked 5/10 seconds off each pace comfortably.

Used the bargain Takumi Sen 9's for the first time - felt pretty good but could feel a bit of pressure under both arches, hopefully just need to wear them in!


Edited by Rosscow on Wednesday 10th July 08:58

lizardbrain

2,819 posts

52 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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How much of a negative split though? Let’s say you are targeting a 5k in 26 mins. Is it 14 mins part one 12
Mins part two.

Or something more dramatic?

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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The jiffle king said:
Decent 5k last night in an inter-club series.

Happy with a speedy 17:40 and still only 5th for my club
Excellent, good work!

Rosscow

9,192 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th July 2024
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lizardbrain said:
How much of a negative split though? Let’s say you are targeting a 5k in 26 mins. Is it 14 mins part one 12
Mins part two.

Or something more dramatic?
Sorry, was this directed at me?

This was just a general training session, we always try and increase pace and decrease recovery as the session goes on.

So I started at a typical 10k pace and worked up to 5k pace and then quicker again.