The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

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spikeyhead

17,524 posts

200 months

Saturday 15th June
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jules_s said:
Yazza54 said:
I agree, I just hope he doesn't go off the rails. To be fair that just looks like a man that can't handle his booze, plenty of those about.
Well documented (or claimed) - although I cant see how a 6' 9" 20 stone male can get wasted on 3 or 4 pints though tongue out

This Baraou fight it a proper tear up...
I knew a big Saffa, about 6' 3" and 17 stone who was banned from having more than two pints to prevent him falling over

juliussneezer

130 posts

5 months

Saturday 15th June
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Looking forward to the Whittaker fight, some proper needle going on there.

Unreal

3,825 posts

28 months

Saturday 15th June
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spikeyhead said:
I knew a big Saffa, about 6' 3" and 17 stone who was banned from having more than two pints to prevent him falling over
I have a friend who drinks white wine by the pint. Could explain it.

biggbn

24,276 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th June
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Baraou v McGowan, two hard, hard men doing what hard men do. What a scrap. Baraou one of my favourite fighters!!

spikeyhead

17,524 posts

200 months

Saturday 15th June
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Unreal said:
spikeyhead said:
I knew a big Saffa, about 6' 3" and 17 stone who was banned from having more than two pints to prevent him falling over
I have a friend who drinks white wine by the pint. Could explain it.
This bloke was only allowed Carlsberg or IPA in the pub, not allowed a single pint of Stella. lovely bloke, even when falling about after three pints, but being so big used to cause a lot of damage when repeated falling.

jules_s

4,374 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th June
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juliussneezer said:
Looking forward to the Whittaker fight, some proper needle going on there.
I'm not sure what to make Ben Whittaker

I'm erring on the side of 'I hope he gets KTF out' after the build up and that ring walk

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th June
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jules_s said:
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I'm erring on the side of 'I hope he gets KTF out' after the build up and that ring walk
I'm with you on that. I don't mind showboating. I don't like bullying.

Having said that, his opponent has slow hands, so can't see him causing Whittaker any trouble.

uk66fastback

16,653 posts

274 months

Saturday 15th June
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He’s quick and slick is Whittaker but he should have stopped this bloke really - maybe he wanted the 30 minutes in full. Should be fighting every month. Be interesting to see how his thought process in-fight and style changes as he fights better opponents. Light heavies can bang, that’s for sure.

PRO5T

4,225 posts

28 months

Saturday 15th June
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The ref is busy here.

jules_s

4,374 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th June
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Smith bossed that - fair play to him.

biggbn

24,276 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th June
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Riakporhe looked flat, uninspiring, what was he thinking with those tactics? He needed to be on the outside landing long punches not walking forward and grabbing, playing an infighting game that suits Smith. I found that a hard watch being honest, poor fight.

Dunno what the judges were watching...again....

uk66fastback

16,653 posts

274 months

Saturday 15th June
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Yeah, agree with that. He started off well with the better jab but as they said, he looked big at the weight … and maybe gassed early (very). His punches had no snap at all and he played into CBS’s hands …

Bright Halo

3,072 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th June
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biggbn said:
Riakporhe looked flat, uninspiring, what was he thinking with those tactics? He needed to be on the outside landing long punches not walking forward and grabbing, playing an infighting game that suits Smith. I found that a hard watch being honest, poor fight.

Dunno what the judges were watching...again....
Well I got that wrong.
CBS is a very clever boxer, not pretty but he knows how to win.
Well done.

wc98

10,656 posts

143 months

Monday 17th June
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uk66fastback said:
He’s quick and slick is Whittaker but he should have stopped this bloke really - maybe he wanted the 30 minutes in full. Should be fighting every month. Be interesting to see how his thought process in-fight and style changes as he fights better opponents. Light heavies can bang, that’s for sure.
He is quick but he isn't slick. That's twice i have watched him now and both times he looked like he ran out of ideas when he landed his best shots that didn't shift his opponents. He doesn't hit as hard as he or others think and his defence and form when throwing shots is poor.

Got hit far too often this time and is wide open when throwing body shots. He is going to get cracked with a big hook in that situation as he moves up the ranks so he either needs to have a great chin or be matched carefully throughout his career, as you say, that division has plenty of bangers.

Still time and room for improvement but there are things there i don't see changing and i see more of Josh Kelly than Naz in him.

wc98

10,656 posts

143 months

Monday 17th June
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Bright Halo said:
Well I got that wrong.
CBS is a very clever boxer, not pretty but he knows how to win.
Well done.
Spot on, i love watching him, he is one of those boxers that is greater than the sum of his parts. He is 100% all in on the game and looks to have picked up every bit of the nuanced stuff Mcguigan has taught him. I bet he is a joy to train. Great chin, good defence and the ability to get his head down and grind out a result while sucking the life and ambition out of opponents that on paper have all the tools to beat him.

It's not pretty sometimes but it is effective and i wish him all the success in the world as he comes across as a genuinely good bloke into the bargain.

Red6

417 posts

59 months

Thursday 20th June
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A statue of Marvelous Marvin Hagler was unveiled recently in his adopted home of Brockton, Massachusetts.

Hagler in my mind is the greatest middleweight ever, and my GOAT. One quartet of the Four Kings. A constant switch hitter. A chin like granite, and easily the most disciplined fighter ever. Always looked fight ready and had a near unbreakable will.

juliussneezer

130 posts

5 months

Thursday 20th June
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I know the controversy still rages today but in my opinion Sugar Ray Leonard did win that fight, just.

Red6

417 posts

59 months

Thursday 20th June
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juliussneezer said:
I know the controversy still rages today but in my opinion Sugar Ray Leonard did win that fight, just.
As a Hagler fan, I agree. He gave too much away to SRL - agreeing to the bigger purse, and letting SRL dictate the weight of gloves, number of rounds, and ring size.

Another fault is MMH started off orthodox and not southpaw. He stepped it up in the later rounds, but SRL used hit and run tactics, creating an illusion that he was doing a lot of work. SRL pretty much admitted this in his bio. Had the fight been 15 rounds, I think Hagler would have won. But it's history. Hagler, SRL, Duran, and Hearns gave us the greatest era of boxing.

Pugaris

1,406 posts

47 months

Thursday 20th June
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I have scored that fight a draw, though watching without scoring it felt like Hagler won. That's a bit of a theme with SRL's controversial decisions. I scored the 2nd Hearns fight for SRL as well even though watching as a whole I thought it looked like he lost.

Neither of the decisions for those 2 fights were bad, I think. Hearns and Hagler unfortunate but not robbed

272BHP

5,311 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th June
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juliussneezer said:
I know the controversy still rages today but in my opinion Sugar Ray Leonard did win that fight, just.
I have mulled this one over for decades.

I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter who was given the decision. They fought each other to a standstill and I would be happy with a draw as I would have been with Leonard vs Duran 1 or Hagler v Duran.

Just glad to have witnessed them.