England cricket 2023 & 2024
Discussion
type-r said:
He better. He can't go out like that. Plus he's closing in on Warnies record. Scabutz said:
The story is being reported differently by various places. BBC are questioning if he has already played his last Test. Wisden IG story has said he will retired after this summer is done.
I get they need to work on the future but who is ready to take his place?
I just hope he gets to play one more test and that could be the first this summer at Old Trafford. I get they need to work on the future but who is ready to take his place?
He will go out on his terms. He will play a part in the Test series this summer but is not part of the future. But. He has been our best quick ever and he will be sorely missed and never replaced. A Lancashire lad, whose professionalism, durability and quality have been undeniable. He deserves all the accolades he will undoubtedly receive.
PhilkSVR said:
He will go out on his terms. He will play a part in the Test series this summer but is not part of the future. But. He has been our best quick ever and he will be sorely missed and never replaced. A Lancashire lad, whose professionalism, durability and quality have been undeniable. He deserves all the accolades he will undoubtedly receive.
Our most long lasted quick certainly. Our best? Not by a long chalk. Sheer number of wickets and physical excellence aside, he has been too ordinary too often to be considered a true great. Magikarp said:
Our most long lasted quick certainly. Our best? Not by a long chalk. Sheer number of wickets and physical excellence aside, he has been too ordinary too often to be considered a true great.
Curious who you consider the best, if you brush a man with 700 wickets aside so easily?Magikarp said:
PhilkSVR said:
He will go out on his terms. He will play a part in the Test series this summer but is not part of the future. But. He has been our best quick ever and he will be sorely missed and never replaced. A Lancashire lad, whose professionalism, durability and quality have been undeniable. He deserves all the accolades he will undoubtedly receive.
Our most long lasted quick certainly. Our best? Not by a long chalk. Sheer number of wickets and physical excellence aside, he has been too ordinary too often to be considered a true great. Struggled in Aus, you say? Well compare and contrast Jimmys figures in Aus with anybody else then…might surprise you…
In the end you stand Jimmy with the best ever across everybody. MM, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim & Younis, Glenda, Lillee & Thompson - and like the English boys, he outlasted them all as a top gun. Even the paragons of longevity: CA & CW. Whilst taking more wickets.
The best. And then some. Fred said they’d be bloody tired taking more his 300+…dbl it Fred, over 20yrs.
As ever Jimmy only proves the oldest trueism in England… you want the job done properly - ring Lancashire
DeejRC said:
Absolute hogwash. Our best by a country mile. The natural tendency when picking “others” is a selective memory and cherry picking them only at their best. Well I’ll give you Broad, Tyson, Statham, Fred, Beefy at their best against Jimmy at his best and tell em: go on then, outbowl him. Ain’t going to happen, match each other certainly, but all of them hit absolute heights that can’t be “bettered” per se. So then you ask how long they did it for: well ain’t nobody touching 2 decades of taking every international batting line up on and apart home and away.
Struggled in Aus, you say? Well compare and contrast Jimmys figures in Aus with anybody else then…might surprise you…
In the end you stand Jimmy with the best ever across everybody. MM, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim & Younis, Glenda, Lillee & Thompson - and like the English boys, he outlasted them all as a top gun. Even the paragons of longevity: CA & CW. Whilst taking more wickets.
The best. And then some. Fred said they’d be bloody tired taking more his 300+…dbl it Fred, over 20yrs.
As ever Jimmy only proves the oldest trueism in England… you want the job done properly - ring Lancashire
Couldn’t have put it better myself. Particularly the point about calling Lancashire Struggled in Aus, you say? Well compare and contrast Jimmys figures in Aus with anybody else then…might surprise you…
In the end you stand Jimmy with the best ever across everybody. MM, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim & Younis, Glenda, Lillee & Thompson - and like the English boys, he outlasted them all as a top gun. Even the paragons of longevity: CA & CW. Whilst taking more wickets.
The best. And then some. Fred said they’d be bloody tired taking more his 300+…dbl it Fred, over 20yrs.
As ever Jimmy only proves the oldest trueism in England… you want the job done properly - ring Lancashire
DeejRC said:
Absolute hogwash. Our best by a country mile. The natural tendency when picking “others” is a selective memory and cherry picking them only at their best. Well I’ll give you Broad, Tyson, Statham, Fred, Beefy at their best against Jimmy at his best and tell em: go on then, outbowl him. Ain’t going to happen, match each other certainly, but all of them hit absolute heights that can’t be “bettered” per se. So then you ask how long they did it for: well ain’t nobody touching 2 decades of taking every international batting line up on and apart home and away.
Struggled in Aus, you say? Well compare and contrast Jimmys figures in Aus with anybody else then…might surprise you…
In the end you stand Jimmy with the best ever across everybody. MM, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim & Younis, Glenda, Lillee & Thompson - and like the English boys, he outlasted them all as a top gun. Even the paragons of longevity: CA & CW. Whilst taking more wickets.
The best. And then some. Fred said they’d be bloody tired taking more his 300+…dbl it Fred, over 20yrs.
As ever Jimmy only proves the oldest trueism in England… you want the job done properly - ring Lancashire
And you accuse me of spouting hogwash. There is no way he'd get into an all time XI. He's been a great bowler, but I don't recall any Broad-esque matching winning spells. Struggled in Aus, you say? Well compare and contrast Jimmys figures in Aus with anybody else then…might surprise you…
In the end you stand Jimmy with the best ever across everybody. MM, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim & Younis, Glenda, Lillee & Thompson - and like the English boys, he outlasted them all as a top gun. Even the paragons of longevity: CA & CW. Whilst taking more wickets.
The best. And then some. Fred said they’d be bloody tired taking more his 300+…dbl it Fred, over 20yrs.
As ever Jimmy only proves the oldest trueism in England… you want the job done properly - ring Lancashire
You'd take him over Glenn McGrath or Wasim Akram? I don't even rate him as comparable, let alone better. He's behind Trueman and Willis (and in terms of figures not even in the same league as Sidney Barnes but we'll excuse that as no-one alive saw him play) in the English pantheon, and way down the list of the all time greats. His true greatness is in his remarkable longevity, not his brilliance as a bowler.
I rate him, but not as highly as some.
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