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Catweazle said:
Nice bit of sportsmanship here.
https://x.com/VitalityBlast/status/179726124609957...
Class.https://x.com/VitalityBlast/status/179726124609957...
An unfortunate record to be on the wrong end of - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cqeem...
thegreenhell said:
An unfortunate record to be on the wrong end of - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cqeem...
Yep. I sent that to our captain saying see could be worse. thegreenhell said:
An unfortunate record to be on the wrong end of - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cqeem...
Many years ago we had a team 8 down for 1 which was a leg bye, we let them off the hook and they finished with a total of 11.These bad innings do happen
Funny old game
Funny how clubs have ups and downs as well. We're very much still going up - regularly more players than needed and we're working to create cricket for them.
But - 1 club nearby had 4 saturday teams 3 yrs ago, have just folded their 3s and the first 2 teams have scored just 470 runs between them in the first 4 weeks of the season. They are in dire straights!
Funny how clubs have ups and downs as well. We're very much still going up - regularly more players than needed and we're working to create cricket for them.
But - 1 club nearby had 4 saturday teams 3 yrs ago, have just folded their 3s and the first 2 teams have scored just 470 runs between them in the first 4 weeks of the season. They are in dire straights!
LivingTheDream said:
Funny old game
Funny how clubs have ups and downs as well. We're very much still going up - regularly more players than needed and we're working to create cricket for them.
But - 1 club nearby had 4 saturday teams 3 yrs ago, have just folded their 3s and the first 2 teams have scored just 470 runs between them in the first 4 weeks of the season. They are in dire straights!
Lot of teams near me have gone and the divisions had to be reduced and compacted, weve now ended up in a division with teams much better than us. We have 3 Saturday teams, the 3s are sometimes a bit short and we have some U15s play but thats good for them and gets them involved in the senior game. Funny how clubs have ups and downs as well. We're very much still going up - regularly more players than needed and we're working to create cricket for them.
But - 1 club nearby had 4 saturday teams 3 yrs ago, have just folded their 3s and the first 2 teams have scored just 470 runs between them in the first 4 weeks of the season. They are in dire straights!
Did everyone see the story about the 3rd division game in Devon? One team member bore a striking resemblance to Kumar Sangakkara, because it was actually Kumar Sangakkara. Guy who bowled him out will be dining out on that story for the rest of his life. Imagine that, I once bowled Kumar Sangakakara out!
Scabutz said:
Did everyone see the story about the 3rd division game in Devon? One team member bore a striking resemblance to Kumar Sangakkara, because it was actually Kumar Sangakkara. Guy who bowled him out will be dining out on that story for the rest of his life. Imagine that, I once bowled Kumar Sangakakara out!
I heard this yesterday from my best mate who lives in Pamphill - the ground where this happened is about 2 minutes walk from his front door so him and his son went to watch. What an experience!WindyCommon said:
Yep, standard. Junior game and training already called off this week. Tomorrow looking sketchy for the 3 seniors and if rains heavily not sure what state the ground will be in for another junior game Sunday.We started adding extra games for the juniors as so many have been rained off and now the new fixtures are getting rained off as well. f
king annoying. The kids must be pissed off but so am I. I enjoy coaching and umpiring the kids matches. Thanks to a very similarly minded oppo skipper, we managed to wait long enough to get a game on on Saturday. Our 1s and our 5s were playing the same club away and their 1s had nicked the covers from the second ground to add to the main ground hence it was very very wet.
But we waited, the rain stopped, the sun came out, it was windy so dried out - just! Played a 20 over game and won!
Our 1s won as well so we walked away from their ground with 30 pts each - massive on a weekend when most others got 10 pts
But we waited, the rain stopped, the sun came out, it was windy so dried out - just! Played a 20 over game and won!
Our 1s won as well so we walked away from their ground with 30 pts each - massive on a weekend when most others got 10 pts
Anyone else here involved in junior cricket, coach, umpire, parent? Ive been coaching since Jan, currently running a Sunday game for U11s in the development league. Looking for some opinions.
Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
Scabutz said:
Anyone else here involved in junior cricket, coach, umpire, parent? Ive been coaching since Jan, currently running a Sunday game for U11s in the development league. Looking for some opinions.
Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
It is tricky I agree mainly because there is a fair bit of judgement in some of the calls and one persons wide is another persons "just about ok". I usually try and agree with the oppo umpire that we will allow 2 x obvious indiscretions per bowler, then after that we umpire it strictly. We also make it clear to the players bowling before they start their over that is our intent. Not had any kids deliberately bowl wide because they know they will get away with it yet Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
.Scabutz said:
Anyone else here involved in junior cricket, coach, umpire, parent? Ive been coaching since Jan, currently running a Sunday game for U11s in the development league. Looking for some opinions.
Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
You're doing the right thing!! - There will always be oppo coaches who take it too seriously and don't really get what junior cricket is all about (I even have them in my U9 league!!).Had a game recently and there was a bit of debate about how harsh or soft the coaches (umpires) were for each team. It was felt that some calls were overly harsh for U11s development cricket, but that on the other hand the opposing coach was too lenient.
My approach is if its a good bowler and they have a bad ball, too high, wide, I am going to signal a wide or NB straight away. If someone is struggling whether its my player or the opposition I will give them some advice and words of support and cut them some slack, if it continues I will signal appropriately. All the games that have been played so far I feel me and the other coach have had the same approach. I felt that the match just gone I was played for a bit of a mug by umpiring like that, while the other side umpired like it was a 1st XI senior game. I dont think it would have changed the result but it would have made the gap a lot smaller.
How are others approaching this and anyone else had the situation like I describe? Should I have discussed it more with their coach and convinced him to be a bit less strict? I struggle to find the balance as my personality is split between rigorous adherence to the rules, and wanting the kids (on both teams) to enjoy this sport we all love. I also as an aside dont understand why wides and no balls are 2 runs at this stage, and 1 run (ok with a re bowl) at every other stage, Surely this is the time wides are the mostly likely to happen due to inexperience and how many legal balls are going for 2 or more, as an average.
Im trying to teach my kids (my team not my actual kids) not just the skills of cricket and how to bat, bowl, field, but the spirit of the game and fairness, this is cricket, its not bloody football, we play fair (mostly, looking at you Smith, Warner and Bancroft),
Maybe I am letting it get to me and should just move on and go to the next game, but just want to do right by the team. I love coaching and running the games and just want to be sure Im doing it right.
Try to agree the approach before the game but don't get worked up about it if they are harsh, the kids will see and understand what happens - we use it as a way of instilling the spirit of cricket and how we as a team and club play the game - irrespective of others, its a good lesson.
We have teams we play who are so intent on winning (even at U10, U11 etc) that they have the best 5 do all the bowling and are top order batters - the rest do very little in the game. Its something we refuse to do, we ensure all 11 are involved in the game and we try to enjoy it no matter what.
Re the wides being 2 and no re bowl - I think its a good thing, particularly with respect to the point above, where we have everyone bowl (especially with our b or even c teams). Those that are not the best then don't have to bowl an 8, 9 or more ball over, they don't get too downhearted at constantly having to re-bowl plus we can still fit the game in a sensible timeframe, We could be there all night otherwise!!
Although I should say I think we only do it in pairs cricket, at U11 we move to standard rules.
as an aside - our junior league rules state we should agree a wide line and that for U11 and below, the return crease is a good start! Yes! the return crease.
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