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I think I prefer Rory being honest about how devastated he was by leaving rather than meaningless answers to the same f
king stupid questions for an hour.
I'm sure in hindsight he'll regret not finding Bryson and privately congratulating him. But as for the rest, he's given more than enough of himself to the sport and the media over the last God knows how many years.
Most importantly he provided the drama on course. Those in the media world who are decrying his departure, probably don't get that.
king stupid questions for an hour. I'm sure in hindsight he'll regret not finding Bryson and privately congratulating him. But as for the rest, he's given more than enough of himself to the sport and the media over the last God knows how many years.
Most importantly he provided the drama on course. Those in the media world who are decrying his departure, probably don't get that.
Leithen said:
I think I prefer Rory being honest about how devastated he was by leaving rather than meaningless answers to the same fking stupid questions for an hour.
I'm sure in hindsight he'll regret not finding Bryson and privately congratulating him. But as for the rest, he's given more than enough of himself to the sport and the media over the last God knows how many years.
Most importantly he provided the drama on course. Those in the media world who are decrying his departure, probably don't get that.
You can just imagine what the questions would have been. There isn't a single question they could have asked him that they don't already know the answer to. king stupid questions for an hour. I'm sure in hindsight he'll regret not finding Bryson and privately congratulating him. But as for the rest, he's given more than enough of himself to the sport and the media over the last God knows how many years.
Most importantly he provided the drama on course. Those in the media world who are decrying his departure, probably don't get that.
Rory will contact Bryson and congratulate him, if he hasn't already. He's not a bad guy.
s94wht said:
You can just imagine what the questions would have been. There isn't a single question they could have asked him that they don't already know the answer to.
Rory will contact Bryson and congratulate him, if he hasn't already. He's not a bad guy.
Judging by Bryson's comments after the game I don't think he's taken things too personally:Rory will contact Bryson and congratulate him, if he hasn't already. He's not a bad guy.
https://www.skysports.com/golf/news/12176/13154162...
I do feel for Rory but am sure he can bounce back - he won the US Open a month after his collapse at Augusta so he can do it - will be interesting to see if he plays next week or pulls out.
However what happened to him on 5 was criminal - I really fail to see how you can defend a perfectly well struck shot that was 20 feet from the pin at one stage rolling 30 yards off the green. It's why the US Open is my least favourite major by far - some of the breaks I saw over the weekend were in clown show territory.
Challo said:
I don't see the issue with No5. Yes it massively punishes players for not being accurate, but it is a Par5 and players trying to hit the green in two are always running a risk.
The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
Agreed, it’s the same course for all the players. The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
Teatowell said:
Challo said:
I don't see the issue with No5. Yes it massively punishes players for not being accurate, but it is a Par5 and players trying to hit the green in two are always running a risk.
The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
Agreed, it’s the same course for all the players. The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
I do get slightly annoyed when all the comp pins are on the right of the green as I hit a draw with irons
A good major and I like to see the pressure of the course taking players out of their comfort zone. Gutted for Rory but don't mind Bryson being the victore. These are two of the main players that will sustain golf for the next decade.
This major showed they are so used to hitting to numbers and mentally struggle to intentionally hit long or short of the flag. Also the back nine between Rory and Bryson showed what pressure does to the golf game. At the time I didn't think Bryson's mechanical approach would stand up to pressure and it showed with him struggling all day. The bunker shot was where he has to play a feel shot. I think he would be a better player with a less mechanical and more feel approach. Rory lost this as the pressure got to his game from the 14th hole.
I also disagree Rory hit a good second shot on the 5th. 240y out and a 5-iron and you can see from his body language and vocal noises when the ball was in the air that he knew he did not hit a shot that was going to make it over the false front. He also lost so many short irons to the right, and this seems to happen when he is in pressure situations. Not sure how he fixes this as unless he is 5 in the lead, the pressure is always going to be there.
Onto the Open next and let's hope they get 4 days of 20mph wind and cool temperatures so we can see how they will deal with UK golfing conditions.
This major showed they are so used to hitting to numbers and mentally struggle to intentionally hit long or short of the flag. Also the back nine between Rory and Bryson showed what pressure does to the golf game. At the time I didn't think Bryson's mechanical approach would stand up to pressure and it showed with him struggling all day. The bunker shot was where he has to play a feel shot. I think he would be a better player with a less mechanical and more feel approach. Rory lost this as the pressure got to his game from the 14th hole.
I also disagree Rory hit a good second shot on the 5th. 240y out and a 5-iron and you can see from his body language and vocal noises when the ball was in the air that he knew he did not hit a shot that was going to make it over the false front. He also lost so many short irons to the right, and this seems to happen when he is in pressure situations. Not sure how he fixes this as unless he is 5 in the lead, the pressure is always going to be there.
Onto the Open next and let's hope they get 4 days of 20mph wind and cool temperatures so we can see how they will deal with UK golfing conditions.
48Valves said:
Back to normal people golf.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
. 5.5 is just 0.1 from equalling the lowest I've ever been. If only I hadn't missest the 18" putt on 13 
Well played. I find I play my best golf when the expectation is removed, like your example of the day before meaning mentally you are not expecting much Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
. 5.5 is just 0.1 from equalling the lowest I've ever been. If only I hadn't missest the 18" putt on 13 
soupdragon1 said:
Interesting stat
Scottie won the masters with a score of 277
Bryson wins the US open with a score of 274
So which was the toughest test...
The psychology of 'par'
This is exactly what the US Open is about and why they say a total score and not X to par in the presentation. It is a mental thing where they try to mess with the players minds and you can see it usually works.Scottie won the masters with a score of 277
Bryson wins the US open with a score of 274
So which was the toughest test...
The psychology of 'par'
This is why I like Bryson, gate crashes the golf channel when they are recreating his bunker shot to the 18th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVTaaRC-FA
Rosscow said:
Ashfordian said:
This is exactly what the US Open is about and why they say a total score and not X to par in the presentation. It is a mental thing where they try to mess with the players minds and you can see it usually works.
That's what they do at The Open, too. Not saying Phil was right to do that, but they'd taken it to extremes that year, and it's hardly an uncommon occurrence.
I'm less convinced of the argument that Rory hadn't hit it properly by his reaction - after all pros reacting like that when they've hit a perfectly decent shot is hardly rare, as anyone who's watched Hideki play a lot will testify
Anyway back to real golf, I've been invited to play in a 3 Man Scramble on Sunday at Stone by the President and his son, who play off 2 and 8 respectively. The Pres is particular is one of those freakily talented golfers, never had a lesson in his life and can play most people off the course, whilst also using a John Letters Golden Goose putter.
Should be fun
fourstardan said:
I've always like Bryson but now more admiration. The fact he's lost his dad at such a young age and then won yesterday without losing it shows how resilient he is.
Rory has been a snot since he got the Nike deal years ago.
I think all the chat around Rory choking is missing a fairly important factor - Bryson had to get up and down from a bunker 50 odd yards away on the 18th to win, which as well all know is one of the hardest shots in golf. OK Rory's putt on 16 was a shocker, but it still looks to me like Bryson won that rather than Rory losing it. Rory has been a snot since he got the Nike deal years ago.
fourstardan said:
I've always like Bryson but now more admiration. The fact he's lost his dad at such a young age and then won yesterday without losing it shows how resilient he is.
Rory has been a snot since he got the Nike deal years ago.
When Rory realizes how many fans he has lost with his petulance it will be a quick call to liv ‘just settle my divorce I’m yours’Rory has been a snot since he got the Nike deal years ago.
milesgiles said:
When Rory realizes how many fans he has lost with his petulance it will be a quick call to liv ‘just settle my divorce I’m yours’
He's human, X2 3 foot misses would really p£ss me right off in a crappy club comp so this will really hurt,he won't be straight off to Liv Wills2 said:
This is why I like Bryson, gate crashes the golf channel when they are recreating his bunker shot to the 18th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVTaaRC-FA
That’s brilliant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVTaaRC-FA
bodhi said:
I think all the chat around Rory choking is missing a fairly important factor - Bryson had to get up and down from a bunker 50 odd yards away on the 18th to win, which as well all know is one of the hardest shots in golf. OK Rory's putt on 16 was a shocker, but it still looks to me like Bryson won that rather than Rory losing it.
He missed two putts at short range, not a choke In my view as the bunker on 18 was really good from Rory. As said Bryson was the better man and made the least amount of mistake simples.
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