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That was a fantastic watch and whilst Rory will no doubt feel absolutely awful, he should also take a lot of positives. Bryson missed a short putt and Rory’s on 16 was probably balancing the book. The putt on 18 was a horror and tough for anyone to hole, let alone under those circumstances.
And for Bryson’s bunker shot, well, that is without doubt the hardest shot in golf, he played it to perfection.
Rory won after his Masters collapse and hopefully he’ll bounce right back at the Open next month.
And for Bryson’s bunker shot, well, that is without doubt the hardest shot in golf, he played it to perfection.
Rory won after his Masters collapse and hopefully he’ll bounce right back at the Open next month.
Amazing. This is what I like to see - genuine toil and moments of utter brilliance. I don’t like to see collapses - Greg Norman’s aside - and feel for Rory there. Hopefully that won’t haunt him for too long but it just goes to show what a level these players are at when tournaments are decided by the merest of margins.
Gutted for Rory. Played great and comes away empty handed. Well done to Bryson, didn't have his best stuff for the last 27 holes but managed to post a good score.
He rode his luck off the tee for a round and a half Bryson, hitting it into the native areas what seemed like every other hole but only really punished a couple of times. Took full advantage though so all credit to him and that bunker shot to win on 18 was incredible.
Not a fan of native areas around the greens though. As we seen all week, up and downs are really tricky if you miss the greens, no 8 in particular having it's fair share of players going one side to the other. So why have native areas greenside on the likes of 5 and 15?
I've bleated long enough already about No5. Nearly cost us the world No1 for the weekend and then Rory again on Sunday making 6 from 2 great shots.
If the greens and slopes are so tricky, why introduce the element of luck? It's taking away the skill element. Regular bunker or the run off grass is difficult enough so why throw in the lottery of a playable lie. It kind of works ok around the fairways. Yes, still an element of luck but off a tee shot, but at least if you get a bad lie, the opportunity remains for a gouge out and recover par from a quality approach.
Different story greenside. You need precision to get up and down on this course due to the design, so adding waste areas greenside on 5 and 15 is removing that opportunity to be precise, which seems a misfit to the rest of the course.
Apart from that short putt on 18, Rory got up and down every single time he missed a green - except for 5 and 15, the 2 holes where his approach landed in the greenside waste areas. No opportunity to use your skill to recover.
I guess 15 is the same for everyone who goes long, so not quite as bad as No5. Ultimately though, it cost Rory the win. He played the best IMO but didn't get the rub of the green like Bryson did.
He rode his luck off the tee for a round and a half Bryson, hitting it into the native areas what seemed like every other hole but only really punished a couple of times. Took full advantage though so all credit to him and that bunker shot to win on 18 was incredible.
Not a fan of native areas around the greens though. As we seen all week, up and downs are really tricky if you miss the greens, no 8 in particular having it's fair share of players going one side to the other. So why have native areas greenside on the likes of 5 and 15?
I've bleated long enough already about No5. Nearly cost us the world No1 for the weekend and then Rory again on Sunday making 6 from 2 great shots.
If the greens and slopes are so tricky, why introduce the element of luck? It's taking away the skill element. Regular bunker or the run off grass is difficult enough so why throw in the lottery of a playable lie. It kind of works ok around the fairways. Yes, still an element of luck but off a tee shot, but at least if you get a bad lie, the opportunity remains for a gouge out and recover par from a quality approach.
Different story greenside. You need precision to get up and down on this course due to the design, so adding waste areas greenside on 5 and 15 is removing that opportunity to be precise, which seems a misfit to the rest of the course.
Apart from that short putt on 18, Rory got up and down every single time he missed a green - except for 5 and 15, the 2 holes where his approach landed in the greenside waste areas. No opportunity to use your skill to recover.
I guess 15 is the same for everyone who goes long, so not quite as bad as No5. Ultimately though, it cost Rory the win. He played the best IMO but didn't get the rub of the green like Bryson did.
The course gave us a real golfing spectacle and shows that despite the modern game a course can still be set up to be a real challenge to the worlds best.
I'm glad Bryson won, he played the whole week in the right spirit, smiling and engaging with the crowd and had a freedom to his game that was lacking in others, baring the Ryder cup golf has become a little staid of late in terms of many of the players demeanour on the course and he is the reverse of that IMO.
Pleased to see Rory playing so well, but he needed a 67 to win and on that course when in contention to win with all the pressure that brings it was always going to be a tough ask, I don't see it as a collapse or choke more due to the toughness of the set up.
The only thing that would have made it even better was to have paired Rory with Bryson but I think they go by first one in first one out when it comes to tied pairings.
Absolutely gutted for Rory, I really thought after the birdie on 13 that he would go on to win. Very tough for him.
BdC got lucky off the tee time and time again, Rory hit's 2 lovely shots into 5 and walks off with a 6.
Surprising choice to go with driver on 18 as well.
However, nobody can deny the brilliance of the last up and down by BdC.
Rory played the better golf but ultimately you can't miss 2 putts from 3 feet with 5 holes to go of a major. Shame.
BdC got lucky off the tee time and time again, Rory hit's 2 lovely shots into 5 and walks off with a 6.
Surprising choice to go with driver on 18 as well.
However, nobody can deny the brilliance of the last up and down by BdC.
Rory played the better golf but ultimately you can't miss 2 putts from 3 feet with 5 holes to go of a major. Shame.
Good major R4, probably one of the better ones for a while.
It's very hard this game and the winner and 2nd both missing 3/4 footers is proof of this.
When you look at this chance it's one Rory should have taken, but him storming out after seeing Bryson close and hoping just shows you where he is now days in this game.
It's very hard this game and the winner and 2nd both missing 3/4 footers is proof of this.
When you look at this chance it's one Rory should have taken, but him storming out after seeing Bryson close and hoping just shows you where he is now days in this game.
Back to normal people golf.
Played yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
. 5.5 is just 0.1 from equalling the lowest I've ever been. If only I hadn't missest the 18" putt on 13 ![wobble](/inc/images/wobble.gif)
Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
Played yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
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Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
48Valves said:
Back to normal people golf.
Played yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
. 5.5 is just 0.1 from equalling the lowest I've ever been. If only I hadn't missest the 18" putt on 13 ![wobble](/inc/images/wobble.gif)
Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
Nearly a Cat 1.....not a lot of people can say that,good luckPlayed yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
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![wobble](/inc/images/wobble.gif)
Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
The conditions on Sat were ridiculous - so much so that I've ordered a Mizuno Fli-Hi (19). I reckon I'll hit more fairways with a driving iron than a driver when the wind is up. As well as for pretty much every other type of weather. First outing with it will be Friday afternoon. We shall see.
48Valves said:
Back to normal people golf.
Played yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
. 5.5 is just 0.1 from equalling the lowest I've ever been. If only I hadn't missest the 18" putt on 13 ![wobble](/inc/images/wobble.gif)
Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
I'm pretty sure repeating yourself is just showing off Played yesterday afternoon in blustery conditions. I was rather tiered after spending 14 and a half hours at my football club presentation on Saturday on my feet all day, then staying up to wath the golf till god knows what time. So I wasn't particurly energised for the round, but I was convinced to put in a card for the Stableford comp. A 3 putt bogey on the first didnt help.
But a very good up and down on 2 woke me up. Misssed good birdie cahnces on 3 and for before holing a 30fter on 5, at this point I was back fully engaged.
Long story short, I didn't drive or putt great, but I was flushing my irons and hitting good approach shots. signed for a 4 over 76 for 38
points and a cut to 5.5
![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
![wobble](/inc/images/wobble.gif)
Our course is startling to look great. The greens are magnificent, and quck. They were still running nicely even on a Sunday afternoon.
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More seriously though that's a cracking round of golf, and congrats on the handicap cut!
I'm a bit late to the party because I recorded it and I stayed up until 3am cheering Rory on. Man, I'm absolutely heartbroken. Two poor putts (although the putt on the 18th was harder than it looked at first watch) and two strange club choices, driver on 18 and 7i on 15(?). Sack the caddy for 18 alone? Should've taken that driver out of the bag and snapped it over his knee.
So close. Rory has to take positives from that. There's no reason he can't win another major. The up and down from Bryson out of that bunker was insane. 8/10 times Rory holes that putt and Bryson makes a 5. Bryson had the luck of the lie for basically all 4 days, but was a deserved winner really. Just really really feel for my man Rory![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Anyway, had to get that out there as a first step to the therapy I'm going to need after watching that.
Back to normal people golf, as we said. Didn't play this weekend but after a few decent rounds I was crap at the range on Friday which was really disappointing.
So close. Rory has to take positives from that. There's no reason he can't win another major. The up and down from Bryson out of that bunker was insane. 8/10 times Rory holes that putt and Bryson makes a 5. Bryson had the luck of the lie for basically all 4 days, but was a deserved winner really. Just really really feel for my man Rory
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Anyway, had to get that out there as a first step to the therapy I'm going to need after watching that.
Back to normal people golf, as we said. Didn't play this weekend but after a few decent rounds I was crap at the range on Friday which was really disappointing.
soupdragon1 said:
Gutted for Rory. Played great and comes away empty handed. Well done to Bryson, didn't have his best stuff for the last 27 holes but managed to post a good score.
He rode his luck off the tee for a round and a half Bryson, hitting it into the native areas what seemed like every other hole but only really punished a couple of times. Took full advantage though so all credit to him and that bunker shot to win on 18 was incredible.
Not a fan of native areas around the greens though. As we seen all week, up and downs are really tricky if you miss the greens, no 8 in particular having it's fair share of players going one side to the other. So why have native areas greenside on the likes of 5 and 15?
I've bleated long enough already about No5. Nearly cost us the world No1 for the weekend and then Rory again on Sunday making 6 from 2 great shots.
If the greens and slopes are so tricky, why introduce the element of luck? It's taking away the skill element. Regular bunker or the run off grass is difficult enough so why throw in the lottery of a playable lie. It kind of works ok around the fairways. Yes, still an element of luck but off a tee shot, but at least if you get a bad lie, the opportunity remains for a gouge out and recover par from a quality approach.
Different story greenside. You need precision to get up and down on this course due to the design, so adding waste areas greenside on 5 and 15 is removing that opportunity to be precise, which seems a misfit to the rest of the course.
Apart from that short putt on 18, Rory got up and down every single time he missed a green - except for 5 and 15, the 2 holes where his approach landed in the greenside waste areas. No opportunity to use your skill to recover.
I guess 15 is the same for everyone who goes long, so not quite as bad as No5. Ultimately though, it cost Rory the win. He played the best IMO but didn't get the rub of the green like Bryson did.
I don't see the issue with No5. Yes it massively punishes players for not being accurate, but it is a Par5 and players trying to hit the green in two are always running a risk. He rode his luck off the tee for a round and a half Bryson, hitting it into the native areas what seemed like every other hole but only really punished a couple of times. Took full advantage though so all credit to him and that bunker shot to win on 18 was incredible.
Not a fan of native areas around the greens though. As we seen all week, up and downs are really tricky if you miss the greens, no 8 in particular having it's fair share of players going one side to the other. So why have native areas greenside on the likes of 5 and 15?
I've bleated long enough already about No5. Nearly cost us the world No1 for the weekend and then Rory again on Sunday making 6 from 2 great shots.
If the greens and slopes are so tricky, why introduce the element of luck? It's taking away the skill element. Regular bunker or the run off grass is difficult enough so why throw in the lottery of a playable lie. It kind of works ok around the fairways. Yes, still an element of luck but off a tee shot, but at least if you get a bad lie, the opportunity remains for a gouge out and recover par from a quality approach.
Different story greenside. You need precision to get up and down on this course due to the design, so adding waste areas greenside on 5 and 15 is removing that opportunity to be precise, which seems a misfit to the rest of the course.
Apart from that short putt on 18, Rory got up and down every single time he missed a green - except for 5 and 15, the 2 holes where his approach landed in the greenside waste areas. No opportunity to use your skill to recover.
I guess 15 is the same for everyone who goes long, so not quite as bad as No5. Ultimately though, it cost Rory the win. He played the best IMO but didn't get the rub of the green like Bryson did.
The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
https://youtube.com/shorts/e8xl1X55Jm8?feature=sha...
My effort at Brysons bunker shot.. admit it was a bit shorter didn’t have the room
My effort at Brysons bunker shot.. admit it was a bit shorter didn’t have the room
Challo said:
I don't see the issue with No5. Yes it massively punishes players for not being accurate, but it is a Par5 and players trying to hit the green in two are always running a risk.
The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
Rory didn’t go left. It was a good shot, landing front edge centre of the green and rolling to around 25ft from the pin before rolling off the green. Very very harsh.The danger was always don't go left, so don't go left. It just provides players with a challenge, and the players need to think about how they approach that hole and if you need to lay up just do that.
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