Emma Raducanu

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eps

6,397 posts

275 months

Monday 8th July
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Skeptisk said:
adccl8z said:
g4ry13 said:
That was painful to watch.

I give it <24 hours and the wrist / back excuse is out there in the media rather than being gracious in defeat.
BBC Sport headlines with "..out of Wimbledon after being hampered by a back injury.."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport
If she can’t manage more than three matches without getting injured or being hampered she can’t really be a professional tennis player. Maybe it is her body. Maybe the way she plays makes her more prone to injury. Either case it isn’t looking good for her career. Another Laura Robinson.

Sun looked good but perhaps she was allowed to look good. Next round will tell us a lot.
Laura who?

cuprabob

15,417 posts

220 months

Monday 8th July
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eps said:
Skeptisk said:
adccl8z said:
g4ry13 said:
That was painful to watch.

I give it <24 hours and the wrist / back excuse is out there in the media rather than being gracious in defeat.
BBC Sport headlines with "..out of Wimbledon after being hampered by a back injury.."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport
If she can’t manage more than three matches without getting injured or being hampered she can’t really be a professional tennis player. Maybe it is her body. Maybe the way she plays makes her more prone to injury. Either case it isn’t looking good for her career. Another Laura Robinson.

Sun looked good but perhaps she was allowed to look good. Next round will tell us a lot.
Laura who?
I think he meant Laura Robson.

thegreenhell

16,797 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th July
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cuprabob said:
Dunbar871 said:
Let's see how the qualifier does. Hopefully not out next round...
If she is then someone will be able to use the line "Sun is out at Wimbledon".

Simple things and all that smile
She's going well so far.

cuprabob

15,417 posts

220 months

Tuesday 9th July
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thegreenhell said:
cuprabob said:
Dunbar871 said:
Let's see how the qualifier does. Hopefully not out next round...
If she is then someone will be able to use the line "Sun is out at Wimbledon".

Simple things and all that smile
She's going well so far.
Yes, she was shining but dimming a bit now smile

Dunbar871

218 posts

5 months

Tuesday 9th July
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thegreenhell said:
cuprabob said:
Dunbar871 said:
Let's see how the qualifier does. Hopefully not out next round...
If she is then someone will be able to use the line "Sun is out at Wimbledon".

Simple things and all that smile
She's going well so far.
Vekic clear lead...

Gutsy performance from Sun initially however but seemed to run out of momentum in the 2nd set.

thegreenhell

16,797 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th July
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I spoke too soon. She'd just taken the first set when I posted.

Zolvaro

208 posts

5 months

Tuesday 9th July
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mooseracer said:
Good on the world number 135 wildcard making it to the 4th round, and last Brit left in the draw.

Or she's completely useless and may as well stop playing.

Delete as appropriate depending just how British you are.
I'm not sure what the fuss is about Sun played the game of her life, they showed some stats in the 2nd set about her shot quality in the first 3 rounds it was 7.1 out of 10, against Raducanu it was 8.9.

She was swinging full bore at everything and it was coming off, not many players could have coped with that accuracy and power.

g4ry13

18,243 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th July
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I did say that Sun made too many unforced errors and very poor first serve %.

Her stats for last game were actually pretty shocking. Only won 5/13 break points. She basically gifted Raducanu the second set.

It's not surprising that she lost the next match.

type-r

14,949 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Been over a month and been very quiet in here! laugh

Since 24 April, Emma has played just 14 tennis matches. To be clear, that's 14 tennis matches in nearly 5 months. That's nearly half a year to put it into further conext.

She didn't fancy qualifying for Toronto, didn't fancy qualifying for the upcoming Cincy Open. So again, not much tennis being played. Who is advising her? Her sponsors, her parents, her coach, herself?

At your own pace! hehe

Muzzer79

10,835 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th August
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type-r said:
Been over a month and been very quiet in here! laugh

Since 24 April, Emma has played just 14 tennis matches. To be clear, that's 14 tennis matches in nearly 5 months. That's nearly half a year to put it into further conext.

She didn't fancy qualifying for Toronto, didn't fancy qualifying for the upcoming Cincy Open. So again, not much tennis being played. Who is advising her? Her sponsors, her parents, her coach, herself?

At your own pace! hehe
What kind of logic measures number of tournament tennis matches as effort?

You make it sound like she's sat at home playing Playstation.

She didn't play in the Olympics, which means she's played in one or two tournaments less than the world number one.

Come back with how many training sessions she's done, then I'll take you seriously.

Pincher

8,928 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Isn't the Cincinatti Open quite a big tournament? Surprised that she hasn't opted to qualify for that? Is she just relying on wildcards now?

Edit - see that sh is back in the top 100 now, which is a good thing.

abzmike

9,128 posts

112 months

Tuesday 13th August
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This looks ot me a good summary of where she is - https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-features/emma-rad...

Cincy open is a big event, and only one other event before the US Open is Cleveland.

She can train all she wants, but that is not the same as match practice. 3 matches since Wimbledon would leave her very underprepared.

type-r

14,949 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Muzzer79 said:
Come back with how many training sessions she's done, then I'll take you seriously.
Training sessions for what exactly? So she can skip qualifiers?

nickfrog

21,741 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th August
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type-r said:
Been over a month and been very quiet in here! laugh

Since 24 April, Emma has played just 14 tennis matches. To be clear, that's 14 tennis matches in nearly 5 months. That's nearly half a year to put it into further conext.

She didn't fancy qualifying for Toronto, didn't fancy qualifying for the upcoming Cincy Open. So again, not much tennis being played. Who is advising her? Her sponsors, her parents, her coach, herself?

At your own pace! hehe
You're quite obsessed with her.

How is your game going?

type-r

14,949 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th August
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nickfrog said:
You're quite obsessed with her.

How is your game going?
Standard fanboy response! laugh

nickfrog

21,741 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th August
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type-r said:
nickfrog said:
You're quite obsessed with her.

How is your game going?
Standard fanboy response! laugh
Standard swerve.

NRS

22,802 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th August
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type-r said:
Muzzer79 said:
Come back with how many training sessions she's done, then I'll take you seriously.
Training sessions for what exactly? So she can skip qualifiers?
She doesn’t own any of us anything. She can do her own way of playing. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. You could say Ash Barry was a waste of talent retiring so young, but that is what made her happy/worked for her when she made the decision. Emma may well have decided to do enough to stay in the top 100, and get some big pay days occasionally from the slams. That’s totally up to her.

The younger generations are often focusing on a more holistic life than just going all in for a decade or two. And if they’re good enough there’s enough money to fund them for life doing that too.

rjfp1962

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8,243 posts

79 months

type-r

14,949 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th August
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NRS said:
She doesn’t own any of us anything. She can do her own way of playing. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. You could say Ash Barry was a waste of talent retiring so young, but that is what made her happy/worked for her when she made the decision. Emma may well have decided to do enough to stay in the top 100, and get some big pay days occasionally from the slams. That’s totally up to her.

The younger generations are often focusing on a more holistic life than just going all in for a decade or two. And if they’re good enough there’s enough money to fund them for life doing that too.
Understand the mental health aspect but only if she (and others) were going non-stop at it for 6 or 7 years. The constant travel, hotels, being away from family, constant grind of training etc - that would be understandable. As I said before it does scream a bit like snowflake generation to me but maybe I'm just too old school?

The desire to win tournaments should mean more but in her bubble when money is thrown at you via off-court sponsorships, perhaps as you say, she's just happy to cruise around the Top100 whilst skipping tournaments that she doesn't quite fancy.

Which would be a shame as she may look back in time and carry that feeling that she never fully realised her potential. And that would be a shame.

Muzzer79

10,835 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th August
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type-r said:
NRS said:
She doesn’t own any of us anything. She can do her own way of playing. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. You could say Ash Barry was a waste of talent retiring so young, but that is what made her happy/worked for her when she made the decision. Emma may well have decided to do enough to stay in the top 100, and get some big pay days occasionally from the slams. That’s totally up to her.

The younger generations are often focusing on a more holistic life than just going all in for a decade or two. And if they’re good enough there’s enough money to fund them for life doing that too.
Understand the mental health aspect but only if she (and others) were going non-stop at it for 6 or 7 years. The constant travel, hotels, being away from family, constant grind of training etc - that would be understandable. As I said before it does scream a bit like snowflake generation to me but maybe I'm just too old school?

The desire to win tournaments should mean more but in her bubble when money is thrown at you via off-court sponsorships, perhaps as you say, she's just happy to cruise around the Top100 whilst skipping tournaments that she doesn't quite fancy.

Which would be a shame as she may look back in time and carry that feeling that she never fully realised her potential. And that would be a shame.
What makes you think that you know what her potential is or what her choices around her schedule are driven by? You don’t know her.

All through this thread you just seem determined to prove that she isn’t living up to your expectations, standards or work-ethic.

We get it, you feel let down (although God knows why) but I suspect that nothing she would do, short of bleeding out of her racquet hand on court after beating the world number one in straight sets without losing a game, would satisfy you.