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bodhi

10,977 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th January
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On putters, this is the one I've just had extended and hopefully will never leave the bag again - my ladies putter from a trainer company that dabbled in making clubs but gave up because reasons.




fourstardan

4,647 posts

147 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Genuine question but has anyone actually had a session to review your natural stroke with said putters?

I've got a Yes Blade thats about 10 years old and going to a guy who is now working for Phil Kenyon who said not to bother changing and just work on the setup he prescribed.


Rosscow

8,875 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Yes, I had a 2 hour session with Matt Johns at the London Putting Academy (Royal Blackheath GC) about 8 years ago. Said exactly the same, putter was fine and just needed to make some minor tweaks to my set up.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

18 months

Tuesday 16th January
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theguvernor15 said:
Looking for some unbiased reviews on putters?

I've had:
SC special select Newport 2 - sold it as i couldn't get on with the blade.
SC Phantom X12 - liked this, but putting was still bang average, so it's on the shelf at home, it's also only really any use on the green or tightly cut fringes. After much coaching it's evident i'm a poor putter overall based on numbers & my coach currently has me in a Taylormade TP Hydroblast putter with thumb grip to sort me out.
The new grip & setup has taken some time to get used to & my putting is vastly improving, but i just don't like the feel off the face of the TM TP & miss my Scotty.
However, i've heard Evnroll are equivalent, does anyone have any experience of an Evnroll ER2 vs say a Scotty Cameron Squareback?

I seem to suit the thicker blade style & you're still able to use them if you're in the fringe or just off the edge of the green, so it gives more options for shots rather than a mallet style.
I have the Evnroll ER2 and it's good, the tech works, but -

Build quality is poor, hosel insertion is loose and can mess up alignment
Playing partners reckon the sound is awful.... however

IMHO I think it sounds and feels better than most Scotties I've tried, which have a tendency to tinniness. The old classic Scotties are probably better but not very obtainable.

Echo other comments, get an assessment, stick with a method (anything Phil Kenyon will work) and practice.

Throwing money at the problem is short term fun but unlikely to help.

Teatowell

1,364 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

18 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Teatowell said:
Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.
Yes, I do it a lot, easy peasy.

Spend some time finding a grip texture and thickness you like, via your local pro.

I like the Pure DTX standard size grips, building up the lower half with upto 4 wraps to reduce the taper. Extremely long lasting, but YMMV.

rallye101

2,074 posts

200 months

Tuesday 16th January
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bodhi said:
On putters, this is the one I've just had extended and hopefully will never leave the bag again - my ladies putter from a trainer company that dabbled in making clubs but gave up because reasons.



nearly got the whole trainer collection, method and unitized

48Valves

2,046 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Teatowell said:
Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.
I do all of my own re gripping. It’s dead easy.
The hardest part is removing old tape.

Don’t be tight with the lube and you’ll be fine.

Adore grips have everything you need

milesgiles

502 posts

32 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Teatowell said:
Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.
No idea but its like changing headlight bulbs, let a tradie do it while you get on with more important things

Tycho

11,726 posts

276 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Teatowell said:
Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.
It's fairly easy, I used a heat gun to soften the glue when taking the tape off and it was fine. Lots of lube helps!

How about something from the Marlyn or pin up range:
https://ripitgrips.com/collections/grip-sets/produ...

Rosscow

8,875 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Agree with Miles, for me it's one of those things that you can support your Club pro with. Let them do it!

danneth

1,007 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Did some testing today...

Tried the new pxg black ops range, which is stunning.

Tried the new QI10 vs the stealth 2, hardly any difference (little lower spinning)

And tried these balls, which are 13 quid a dozen, thoughts on the numbers vs the pro v1?


DuncanM

6,273 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th January
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danneth said:
Did some testing today...

Tried the new pxg black ops range, which is stunning.

Tried the new QI10 vs the stealth 2, hardly any difference (little lower spinning)

And tried these balls, which are 13 quid a dozen, thoughts on the numbers vs the pro v1?

I love a cheap ball me, would be very interested in more details, and if you get the chance to test on the course smile

Challo

10,458 posts

158 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Rosscow said:
Agree with Miles, for me it's one of those things that you can support your Club pro with. Let them do it!
True but you can buy your grips and tape a lot cheaper than a pro. I used the Amazon Champkey grips last year. 13 grips, tape and solvent all for 40 quid and didn’t take long to change

fat80b

2,373 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Played 18 on Monday morning - It was -3 when we started and still below zero when we finished (at 1pm). (Long trousers for the first time this year (all other days in Jan, I've stuck with shorts).

18 temporary greens, but summer bounces because the fairways were stil frozen made the course play even shorter than normal.
I imagine it was very links like as you had to land the ball 20 yards short of the green in order to bounce on - And if you hit the green with an iron, the ball would ping off half a mile.
It was actually a great challenge and a lot of fun. (I normally avoid the course when the temps are in play)


Game wise, I've been working on 2 things - short game ball contact by getting the shoulders right at setup, and rotating through the ball (Dan Grieve) and long game not letting my left arm collapse in the backswing.

The shorter course setup was great for me - had a run in the middle of the round where I was level par for several holes only to look at my scorecard and blow up with a 9 on the last!

Winter golf is great!


fourstardan

4,647 posts

147 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Challo said:
True but you can buy your grips and tape a lot cheaper than a pro. I used the Amazon Champkey grips last year. 13 grips, tape and solvent all for 40 quid and didn’t take long to change
We don't have a local pro, a local guy who runs about three shops places minions in our "shop"....

Grip work needs a decent drip tray solution, I bought a large oil pan. Make sure the grips you buy are genuine.

I've built quite a collection of club making tools and stuff including a DIY graphite shaft puller someone engineered for me.

bodhi

10,977 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th January
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rallye101 said:
nearly got the whole trainer collection, method and unitized
Lovely - Nike got some stick for their line of clubs - a bit unfairly in my view - but when they got it right their kit was as good as anything else out there.

danneth said:
And tried these balls, which are 13 quid a dozen, thoughts on the numbers vs the pro v1?

Driver and 7 iron numbers look good - spin numbers look a bit low off the wedge though. The Pro V1 isn't the stickiest with a wedge in the Titleist range (that's the Pro V1x) so 2k rpm below it isn't great - suspect they won't stop particularly quickly with a full or partial wedge.

Not that the extra spin is needed for this time of year however - looks an excellent winter ball.


danneth

1,007 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th January
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bodhi said:
Driver and 7 iron numbers look good - spin numbers look a bit low off the wedge though. The Pro V1 isn't the stickiest with a wedge in the Titleist range (that's the Pro V1x) so 2k rpm below it isn't great - suspect they won't stop particularly quickly with a full or partial wedge.

Not that the extra spin is needed for this time of year however - looks an excellent winter ball.
Ye, we were surprised the wedge spin was so low, that said the desent angle was around 2 degrees steeper iirc, so evens itself out.

The initial test was done vs a Kirkland ball, as it was meant to be battle of the budget balls, but it blew the Kirkland out of the water so we went with the pro v1 test as well.

We still need to see what it's like on the course and durability, but from a numbers perspective at 1/4 of the price it's looking very impressive.

Edited by danneth on Wednesday 17th January 16:09

bodhi

10,977 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th January
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danneth said:
Ye, we were surprised the wedge spin was so low, that said the decent angle was around 2 degrees steeper iirc, so evens itself out.

The initial test was done vs a Kirkland ball, as it was meant to be battle of the budget balls, but it blew the Kirkland out of the water so we went with the pro v1 test as well.

We still need to see what it's like on the course and durability, but from a numbers perspective at 1/4 of the price it's looking very impressive.
Doesn't surprise me on the Kirkland - I always found them very spinny and very short off the Driver despite being assured they were made in in old Pro V1 factory.

An interesting ball to put this new one up against would be the Pro V1x Left Dash - an interesting ball with even higher compression than the usual Pro V1x and very long off the Driver, but with limited wedge spin. Considering they are £45 a dozen, would be very interesting if they've done a Left Dash equivalent for a quarter of the price.

edit// On Titleist it looks as if they've just launched the new AVX - incremental improvements but at a slightly lower price. The bit about this I don't like, it looks as if they've dropped the Tour Speed, which was close to my favourite ball. Looks like I'll be stocking up again.

theguvernor15

954 posts

106 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Teatowell said:
Has anyone regripped a set of irons themselves? Something DIYable, or best left to a professional.

Mine are getting a bit past it and 5 iron has just started to split.
I've done it once on an old set when i was starting up again & i'm adept at anything that involves any kind of tool or DIY.

At the time, my old clubs had tape on and i had to peel it off & it took hours, so i just take it to a guy i know to get done, he did my whole set 4-PW with Golf Pride MCC in about an hour for less than £85 which i didn't think was too bad given it included the grips & fitting.