ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP 24
Discussion
PhilkSVR said:
This hurting us big time. Working out how big we have to win our next 2 games is for someone else. Fair play to Scotland though.
Not only that but by time the Aussies face Scotland, they will have qualified, so may not take Scotland too seriously and will bring in some fringe players presumably. So I can't see Scotland's RR dropping much (even if they don't win).PhilkSVR said:
One thing I would ever say about the Aussies is they don’t take any game of cricket seriously. NRR 2.16 for Scotland -1.80 for us. That will take some shifting.
If it means they have the power to shaft the Poms in favour of the Scots, they'll do just enough. Not saying they won't play to win; but they'll play in 2nd gear so not to disturb the RR too much.GloverMart said:
Genuinely don't understand NRR, can you explain what "takes some shifting" will mean, please?
It's runs scored per over vs runs conceded per over so if a team sets a decent total and then bowls the other side out before they are anywhere near the target set, it has a big impact on NRR. If games go down to the wire it has less of an impact.So for England we need Aus to bat first, set a big target, and then bowl Scotland out before they get anywhere near the target set.
In these formats when teams are tied on poi to NRR is the decider.
GloverMart said:
Genuinely don't understand NRR, can you explain what "takes some shifting" will mean, please?
It’s the scale of the victory that magnifies the shift. Eg: If Eng bat first score 200 then bowl out Oman say for 100 in 15 overs the shift is 3.33 That’s the scale of victory we need. Just winning isn’t enough. The pure calculation is one thing but the bottom line is we need to win big as illustrated in the above example. Then we need to go again against Namibia and win ‘well’. Hope that helps.type-r said:
If it means they have the power to shaft the Poms in favour of the Scots, they'll do just enough. Not saying they won't play to win; but they'll play in 2nd gear so not to disturb the RR too much.
True they could but it’s not easy to do in a competitive game. Well let’s hope not ![wink](/inc/images/wink.gif)
PhilkSVR said:
Cheib said:
I think Duckett for Bairstow or Brook…need another left hander in this order.
We have bowled badly. Jacks bowling the second over was massively odd and the commentators were all saying it was a “pace off” wicket and we didn’t do that. The Aussies have proved the commentators were absolutely right.
I don’t think the Mott/Buttler combination is working that well if I am honest.
Agree with most of that. Duckett yes and we blew it in the powerplay. I also think that Topley would have made a difference. Rash has also been off the boil, looking at how Zampa bowled there was no comparison. Livingston is a better bet than Jacks because he can turn it both ways so yes Buttler and Mott must take responsibility for that decision. That batting line up should however be doing better. We have bowled badly. Jacks bowling the second over was massively odd and the commentators were all saying it was a “pace off” wicket and we didn’t do that. The Aussies have proved the commentators were absolutely right.
I don’t think the Mott/Buttler combination is working that well if I am honest.
Zampa bowled very,very well. Those balls he was bowling to Bairstow were googles that he was bowling outside leg stump….crafty !
Oh and Duckett in for Bairstow. Toss up between Bairstow and Brook but Brook has more shots.
Cheib said:
Yup Topley in for Wood I think…Wood is great on a quick track. He doesn’t have the change of pace that fast bowlers need on tracks like this. Compare Wood to the three Aussie quicks.
Zampa bowled very,very well. Those balls he was bowling to Bairstow were googles that he was bowling outside leg stump….crafty !
Oh and Duckett in for Bairstow. Toss up between Bairstow and Brook but Brook has more shots.
We agree. Playing devils advocate Duckett has had no game time but that is a risk but worth taking in my view. I also reckon that they believe pace against the so called ‘lesser’ nations is more effective. On this ground which has smaller boundaries a nick or top edge can go for 4 or 6. So I would go with Topley for control, change of pace and a different angle. The rest need to pull their finger out and play like they are capable of because this isn’t a poor team. Zampa bowled very,very well. Those balls he was bowling to Bairstow were googles that he was bowling outside leg stump….crafty !
Oh and Duckett in for Bairstow. Toss up between Bairstow and Brook but Brook has more shots.
thegreenhell said:
It's interesting that all four groups have one of the senior teams in difficulty.
Hopefully the weather doesn't come into it again.
Good point it is the start of the rainy season. The weather you can do nothing about as they have compressed this tournament to the point there are no reserve days other than the semi finals.Hopefully the weather doesn't come into it again.
PhilkSVR said:
thegreenhell said:
It's interesting that all four groups have one of the senior teams in difficulty.
Hopefully the weather doesn't come into it again.
Good point it is the start of the rainy season. The weather you can do nothing about as they have compressed this tournament to the point there are no reserve days other than the semi finals.Hopefully the weather doesn't come into it again.
Hopefully it doesn’t hamper Scotland any further.
If Scotland beat Aus we are buggered as Aus are unlikely to lose their other game. If Scotland lose they need to lose big and we need to comprehensively beat Oman and Namibia, if we lose either of those games we are buggered. If any of our games are called off due to the weather we are buggered, if Scot v Aus is called off we are buggered.
Not looking very good at all really is it
Not looking very good at all really is it
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