Discussion
Esceptico said:
Blakewater said:
Andy Roddick has spoken out in support of her over the medical time out. I think the Americans have made something of it, even though it hasn't really been mentioned in UK press.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2368724475334/emma-...
Even this article says, "The match got back underway and the British star managed to win the game," as if to imply the time out somehow helped her. There's been controversy over players asking for time outs, but it's usually the losing player and the insinuation is that they're doing it to rest and reset. If Fernandez had come back and won we could have said she benefitted from the time out. In the position she was in, Emma was the one with the most to lose from stopping at that point. She needs to be careful of picking up serious injuries as well, as that's the big killer of sporting careers.
He weighed in against Piers Morgan after Piers criticised people saying John McEnroe's comments were inappropriate when he suggested Emma couldn't handle the pressure at Wimbledon. Piers was reduced to pathetically comparing numbers of Twitter followers with Andy.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/andy-roddick-sl...
Emma has suggested she needed to improve her fitness after Wimbledon and that her problem was playing so many back to back games after basically just being a school girl up until a few weeks before. When Andy Murray first started out, his problem was his fitness and stamina trailing off during long matches towards the end of tournaments.
She got A and A* in Economics and Maths in her A-Levels and says she wants to visit Wall Street whilst in New York, so she has her eye on other career possibilities.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/58524401
I’m completely puzzled by the fuss over the medical time out. Emma didn’t request a time out. She was told to stop by the referee so that her leg could be dealt with. The referee didn’t have any choice as she was bleeding all down her leg. How were they supposed to deal with the bleeding without cleaning it and putting some sort of plaster on top? It was clearly still bleeding so they needed a reasonably big plaster. The treatment was all finished within the regulation 5 mins. I really don’t understand what people complaining think should have been done differently. It was hardly Emma’s fault she got injured and being made to stop facing break point was hardly in her favour. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2368724475334/emma-...
Even this article says, "The match got back underway and the British star managed to win the game," as if to imply the time out somehow helped her. There's been controversy over players asking for time outs, but it's usually the losing player and the insinuation is that they're doing it to rest and reset. If Fernandez had come back and won we could have said she benefitted from the time out. In the position she was in, Emma was the one with the most to lose from stopping at that point. She needs to be careful of picking up serious injuries as well, as that's the big killer of sporting careers.
He weighed in against Piers Morgan after Piers criticised people saying John McEnroe's comments were inappropriate when he suggested Emma couldn't handle the pressure at Wimbledon. Piers was reduced to pathetically comparing numbers of Twitter followers with Andy.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/andy-roddick-sl...
Emma has suggested she needed to improve her fitness after Wimbledon and that her problem was playing so many back to back games after basically just being a school girl up until a few weeks before. When Andy Murray first started out, his problem was his fitness and stamina trailing off during long matches towards the end of tournaments.
She got A and A* in Economics and Maths in her A-Levels and says she wants to visit Wall Street whilst in New York, so she has her eye on other career possibilities.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/58524401
About the slide by ER, graze and subsequent injury timeout, here are the ITF rules...
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
InternationalTennisFederation said:
3.f. Bleeding
If a player is bleeding, the Chair Umpire must stop play as soon as possible, and the Sports Physiotherapist must be called to the court by the Chair Umpire for evaluation and treatment. The Sports Physiotherapist, in conjunction with the Tournament Doctor if appropriate, will evaluate the source of the bleeding, and will request a Medical Time-Out for treatment if necessary.
If requested by the Sports Physiotherapist and/or Tournament Doctor, the Referee in consultation with the Grand Slam Supervisor or Chair Umpire may allow up to a total of five (5) minutes to assure control of the bleeding.
If blood has spilled onto the court or its immediate vicinity, play must not resume until the blood spill has been cleaned appropriately.
So entirely correct and within the rules and ER was up and on the court again before the Umpire called 'Time'.If a player is bleeding, the Chair Umpire must stop play as soon as possible, and the Sports Physiotherapist must be called to the court by the Chair Umpire for evaluation and treatment. The Sports Physiotherapist, in conjunction with the Tournament Doctor if appropriate, will evaluate the source of the bleeding, and will request a Medical Time-Out for treatment if necessary.
If requested by the Sports Physiotherapist and/or Tournament Doctor, the Referee in consultation with the Grand Slam Supervisor or Chair Umpire may allow up to a total of five (5) minutes to assure control of the bleeding.
If blood has spilled onto the court or its immediate vicinity, play must not resume until the blood spill has been cleaned appropriately.
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. JagLover said:
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. Blakewater said:
Andy Roddick
I like Andy Roddick even more now. When I was growing up i loved the Roddick vs Hewitt games. he was a great player. My life become so much brighter brighter when I unfollowed Piers. He is a brat.
Anyway, what a fantastic final it was ! Emma played so so well, especially considering the crowd were not on her side at all.
Hopefully the first of many.
NDA said:
Fantastic result.
I wonder how she would have fared against Serena?
Serena as she is now?, probably even better as Laylah seemed a very good counter-puncher and had the game to combat Emma's. Serena wouldn't likely have reached many of the shots that Laylah sent back with interest. I wonder how she would have fared against Serena?
thebraketester said:
JagLover said:
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. NDA said:
Fantastic result.
I wonder how she would have fared against Serena?
I think those particular two youngsters (ER and LF) have three distinct weapons that mark them out differently to a lot of their peers on the circuit if they were to play SW.I wonder how she would have fared against Serena?
1. They are excellent returners; sharp, snappy and hitting excellent lengths all the time.
2. They move their opponent around... a lot.
3. They are young and fearless; that's what got them both to the US Open Final against opposition that, on paper, they had no right or expectation to overcome. Yes, LF won against 3 of the Worlds top 10 but ER also defeated a recent Grand Slam SF, the very recent Olympic Champion and an in form top 30 player who had just beaten the World Number 1 the previous round... and then beat LF.
They also, I suspect, don't have the mental baggage that I think many players have when they face SW; whereas most women players look across the net and see the 23 time Grand Slam Winner, ER and LF would just see another tennis player, twice their age, still a great server but not great at moving round and in no condition these days to play long rallies for points.
ER and LF have the weapons to really dominate womens tennis for a while and LF in particular has very much proven herself to have a huge amount of self-belief in coming from Match Points down to win against opponents, and twice winning during her US Open run after losing the first set - that really doesn't happen very often in Womens Tennis at all. She also saved two Championship points against ER before starting the final game.
ER is still untested at coming back from a set down, but she has clearly demonstrated she does not like losing her service games by winning the next game straight back on most, if not all, occasions. That she has played 10 games to win a Grand Slam instead of the usual 7 should not be lightly overlooked - as does the very well documented not dropping a set along the way.
They both leave New York with the (Tennis) World at their feet and for both you can just hope two things;
1. They steer clear of injuries, and
2. They maintain their joy of playing the game on their terms, with smiles on their faces and most importantly, fearlessly.
JagLover said:
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. SunsetZed said:
JagLover said:
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. I assumed Fernandez was a nice person after Emma talked about her giving everyone cupcakes when it was her birthday. Laylah turned 19 on 6th September. Emma turns 19 on 13th November, so they're much the same age. I thought she seemed a nice, positive sort of person just enjoying the game when she came on to play the final. That behaviour showed a different side of her and would have attracted negativity from the fans had she behaved like that at Wimbledon.
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Blakewater said:
There was nothing wrong with it at all and no real reason for anyone to make a fuss. It wasn't Emma's choice and had Fernandez been the one to get hurt the match would have been suspended in the same way whilst she was patched up. I can understand Fernandez being frustrated but it wasn't classy behaviour to not only argue like that but do it so Emma could hear. It was unsporting and poor discipline from a tactical point of view.
And in fairness to Leylah who I think is pretty amazing herself!, she didn't lose it in any way like Serena Williams did when Naomi Osaka won the US Open in 2018...! - Pretty sure that spoiled Naomi's victory.. Am hoping she'll get past her mental health issues and return to the sport..rjfp1962 said:
Blakewater said:
There was nothing wrong with it at all and no real reason for anyone to make a fuss. It wasn't Emma's choice and had Fernandez been the one to get hurt the match would have been suspended in the same way whilst she was patched up. I can understand Fernandez being frustrated but it wasn't classy behaviour to not only argue like that but do it so Emma could hear. It was unsporting and poor discipline from a tactical point of view.
And in fairness to Leylah who I think is pretty amazing herself!, she didn't lose it in any way like Serena Williams did when Naomi Osaka won the US Open in 2018...! - Pretty sure that spoiled Naomi's victory.. Am hoping she'll get past her mental health issues and return to the sport..SunsetZed said:
JagLover said:
McGee_22 said:
I suspect LF's lengthy continued rant might be shown by coaches to their players as an example of what not to do when an odd injury occurs; next time, check the rules with the umpire and then sit down, rest and compose yourself just like the injured player is doing. LF generated a lot of negativity around herself and the court with her persistence - ESPN apparently appallingly suggested it was outside the rules and a con.
She did it right in front of her opponent so likely there was an element of calculation and it was gamesmanship. Fortunately Emma was unaffected by her ranting and went on to win. You have to remember she is 19 and in a Grand Slam final. Emotions will be all over the show and just shows she is human.
Emma is almost certainly on a Top 10 trajectory. It will be very interesting to see how she fares next year when she plays a lot more tennis and in a lot more competitions, but she already seems to have the ability to take it to her opponents on grass and on hard courts.. Australian Open can't come round quickly enough! But there's still lots of tennis to play before then.
I think she is confirmed as playing at the Royal Albert Hall later in the year.
I think she is confirmed as playing at the Royal Albert Hall later in the year.
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