More road tax? help stop this.

[b.johnson]

This is not a hoax; If like me you enjoy the little freedom that driving gives you - you should sign this to stop stealth taxes and big-brothers ability to track your every move



Follow the link below if you wish to protest against the proposals!!!!!
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can
expect a NIP with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

[mark r skinner]

Ben, post it in General Gassing, if no-one`s already done it....

[Blipi]

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

[itsadeal]

good work ! signed it

[Mrs Trackside]

Blipi said:

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

Exactly! I live in the middle of fukking nowhere and without a car I can't work to pay the taxes that this bloody government keep piling upon decent law abiding citizens.

[itsadeal]

Mrs Trackside said:

Blipi said:

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

Exactly! I live in the middle of fukking nowhere and without a car I can't work to pay the taxes that this bloody government keep piling upon decent law abiding citizens.

Wow cool your jets a little sweetie! It makes you proud to be british eh

Never thought i would see the day that I play mediator!

[simon the car]

Mrs Trackside said:

Blipi said:

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

Exactly! I live in the middle of fukking nowhere and without a car I can't work to pay the taxes that this bloody government keep piling upon decent law abiding citizens.

Mrs Trackside. You live in the middle of nowhere in Northamptonshire. I think not a bus runs through your village every day to M.K and Northampton i'm sure. Even i know that. You wanna try living with 40% tax on your earnings and then having to pay all the other so called taxes for living. I have sat in the Globe and the Watts inn and seen many a bus go passed, I'm sure you could get to work by public transport if you really had to.

Edited by simon the car on Sunday 10th December 23:02

Edited by simon the car on Sunday 10th December 23:04

[Mrs Trackside]

simon the car said:

Mrs Trackside said:

Blipi said:

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

Exactly! I live in the middle of fukking nowhere and without a car I can't work to pay the taxes that this bloody government keep piling upon decent law abiding citizens.

Mrs Trackside. You live in the middle of nowhere in Northamptonshire. I think not a bus runs through your village every dat to M.K and Northampton i'm sure. Even i know that. You wanna try living with 40% tax on your earnings and then having to pay all the other so called taxes for living. I have sat in the Globe and the Watts in and seen many a bus go passed.

1. I doubt you've sat in either pub and seen many a bus go by because they're on reduced service on the evenings and weekends.

2. As you are so knowledgeable about where I live, you should also know that I'd have to leave home half an hour earlier than I currently do. I'd double my journey time, having to walk to the bus stop to travel into MK central to travel out again to where I work and as there's only four minutes between my bus arriving and the next bus I need to catch leaving, I'd have to pray the bus runs on time. Then I'd have to walk to my work. (The walking part isn't a problem)

I'd also have to catch a bus 3/4 of an hour AFTER I've finished work, again travel into MK to wait 15 minutes to change buses and arrive home one and half hours later than I currently do, thus lenghtening my working day (to include travel) by over two hours.

Who in their right mind would do that when the car only takes 20 minutes and you stay dry when it's raining?



Who do you know that pays 40% tax, your dad maybe?

[matt172]

b.johnson said:

This is not a hoax; If like me you enjoy the little freedom that driving gives you - you should sign this to stop stealth taxes and big-brothers ability to track your every move



Follow the link below if you wish to protest against the proposals!!!!!
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can
expect a NIP with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

this is better than the 80 pence per mile tax they were talking about, that would cost me 16grand a year to get to work!

[Mrs Trackside]

matt172 said:

b.johnson said:

This is not a hoax; If like me you enjoy the little freedom that driving gives you - you should sign this to stop stealth taxes and big-brothers ability to track your every move



Follow the link below if you wish to protest against the proposals!!!!!
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can
expect a NIP with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

this is better than the 80 pence per mile tax they were talking about, that would cost me 16grand a year to get to work!

I object to paying any more tax on my car. We pay enough as it is. Even if these changes are brought in instead of the current road tax, we'd still end up paying more.

[matt172]

Mrs Trackside said:

matt172 said:

b.johnson said:

This is not a hoax; If like me you enjoy the little freedom that driving gives you - you should sign this to stop stealth taxes and big-brothers ability to track your every move



Follow the link below if you wish to protest against the proposals!!!!!
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can
expect a NIP with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

this is better than the 80 pence per mile tax they were talking about, that would cost me 16grand a year to get to work!

I object to paying any more tax on my car. We pay enough as it is. Even if these changes are brought in instead of the current road tax, we'd still end up paying more.

I quite agree, I would object to either of these, and considering the cars that the PM etc are driving about in are hardly setting a good example for us! would be nice to see the road tax and petrol duty actually being used to make some difference to the roads, how come every other country in Europe has great roads apart from us?
think the biggest problem is that if they do introduce something like this, no one is going to do anything about it, we'll just mutter about it for a bit, and then let them get on with it, its the British mentality to just let them get on with it and not complain

[itsadeal]

havin fun guys

[Mrs Trackside]

matt172 said:

think the biggest problem is that if they do introduce something like this, no one is going to do anything about it, we'll just mutter about it for a bit, and then let them get on with it, its the British mentality to just let them get on with it and not complain

Bingo!!!

I think if we all sat on the roads and refused to go to work for a month, like the organised fuel protests, but with ALL of us contributing and actually doing something about it, instead of letting others take "responsibility", then they'd have to sit up and listen.

Unfortunately, too many people are too lazy and sheeplike to do anything to change it, so we all end up paying anyway.

Apathy. The common killer of the Great that Britain used to be.

[matt172]

Mrs Trackside said:

matt172 said:

think the biggest problem is that if they do introduce something like this, no one is going to do anything about it, we'll just mutter about it for a bit, and then let them get on with it, its the British mentality to just let them get on with it and not complain

Bingo!!!

I think if we all sat on the roads and refused to go to work for a month, like the organised fuel protests, but with ALL of us contributing and actually doing something about it, instead of letting others take "responsibility", then they'd have to sit up and listen.

Unfortunately, too many people are too lazy and sheeplike to do anything to change it, so we all end up paying anyway.

Apathy. The common killer of the Great that Britain used to be.

as agreived as I am to say it, this is where the french have the right idea, they don't like something, they go on strike and shut the country down, the last one when they closed calais was because one cleaner got the sack!

[Mrs Trackside]

matt172 said:

Mrs Trackside said:

matt172 said:

think the biggest problem is that if they do introduce something like this, no one is going to do anything about it, we'll just mutter about it for a bit, and then let them get on with it, its the British mentality to just let them get on with it and not complain

Bingo!!!

I think if we all sat on the roads and refused to go to work for a month, like the organised fuel protests, but with ALL of us contributing and actually doing something about it, instead of letting others take "responsibility", then they'd have to sit up and listen.

Unfortunately, too many people are too lazy and sheeplike to do anything to change it, so we all end up paying anyway.

Apathy. The common killer of the Great that Britain used to be.

as agreived as I am to say it, this is where the french have the right idea, they don't like something, they go on strike and shut the country down, the last one when they closed calais was because one cleaner got the sack!

Why does it agrieve you to say it. The Government of this country has only run it into the ground because we, the British public have allowed them to.

The French might be a pain in the arse with their protests and stuff, but they seem to be proud to be French (which is more than I can say about being English/British at this moment in time)

[mark r skinner]

Spot on, Mrs T.

[simon the car]

Mrs Trackside said:

simon the car said:

Mrs Trackside said:

Blipi said:

Sometimes I really really hate this country.

Try providing me with a viable alternative to my car... Can't? Then let me get on with my life FFS. :rant:

Exactly! I live in the middle of fukking nowhere and without a car I can't work to pay the taxes that this bloody government keep piling upon decent law abiding citizens.

Mrs Trackside. You live in the middle of nowhere in Northamptonshire. I think not a bus runs through your village every dat to M.K and Northampton i'm sure. Even i know that. You wanna try living with 40% tax on your earnings and then having to pay all the other so called taxes for living. I have sat in the Globe and the Watts in and seen many a bus go passed.

1. I doubt you've sat in either pub and seen many a bus go by because they're on reduced service on the evenings and weekends.

2. As you are so knowledgeable about where I live, you should also know that I'd have to leave home half an hour earlier than I currently do. I'd double my journey time, having to walk to the bus stop to travel into MK central to travel out again to where I work and as there's only four minutes between my bus arriving and the next bus I need to catch leaving, I'd have to pray the bus runs on time. Then I'd have to walk to my work. (The walking part isn't a problem)

I'd also have to catch a bus 3/4 of an hour AFTER I've finished work, again travel into MK to wait 15 minutes to change buses and arrive home one and half hours later than I currently do, thus lenghtening my working day (to include travel) by over two hours.

Who in their right mind would do that when the car only takes 20 minutes and you stay dry when it's raining?



Who do you know that pays 40% tax, your dad maybe?

Sorry my father does not work. As for me paying 40% tax i can assure you that i pay 40% tax on my earnings. Do you know yout tax threshold ,40% tax is paid if you earn £33,300 a year. If not you should check it out.
I have been for a lunch at the pubs in your Village many a time. My company built several houses opposite the school there a few years ago.
Have you tried the bus service to work, is it worth trying, could you do a transport share ??????????????????.
Do you run a company car. Taxed on the fuel you put in it and taxed on using it to do your job.
The problem with the people in this country (myself included) is that we let it happen and do nothing about it. We settle for what we have and a bit more. Do we stand up for our rights like the French do NO.
The fuel strike is the perfect example.

Edited by simon the car on Monday 11th December 07:41

Edited by simon the car on Monday 11th December 07:49

Edited by simon the car on Monday 11th December 07:50

Edited by simon the car on Monday 11th December 07:53

[simon the car]

Mrs Trackside.
You have options as a British citizen.
This is one of them as its not going to change over here.
www.zyra.org.uk/estag-au.htm

Edited by simon the car on Monday 11th December 08:09

[Mrs Trackside]

simon the car said:

Sorry my father does not work. As for me paying 40% tax i can assure you that i pay 40% tax on my earnings. Do you know yout tax threshold ,40% tax is paid if you earn £33,300 a year. If not you should check it out.

I don't need to check it out, neither myself nor Trackside earn anywhere near the limit so it doesn't affect us. I couldn't give a stuff about your or anyone elses finances, what happens in MY house is my concern and when I need to worry about the upper earnings tax, then I will.

simon the car said:

I have been for a lunch at the pubs in your Village many a time. My company built several houses opposite the school there a few years ago.

And this is relevant how?

simon the car said:

Have you tried the bus service to work, is it worth trying, could you do a transport share ??????????????????.

Why would I try the bus service when as I've already said it's going to add two hours to my working day.

Transport share isn't an option. I work for a very small company and no-one else comes from my part of the world. Plus car-sharing is not going to stop the extortion that this new tax proposes is it?

simon the car said:

Do you run a company car. Taxed on the fuel you put in it and taxed on using it to do your job.

No, my car is personal.

simon the car said:

The problem with the people in this country (myself included) is that we let it happen and do nothing about it. We settle for what we have and a bit more. Do we stand up for our rights like the French do NO.
The fuel strike is the perfect example.

Did I not already say this?

[simon the car]

Mrs Trackside said:

simon the car said:

Sorry my father does not work. As for me paying 40% tax i can assure you that i pay 40% tax on my earnings. Do you know yout tax threshold ,40% tax is paid if you earn £33,300 a year. If not you should check it out.

I don't need to check it out, neither myself nor Trackside earn anywhere near the limit so it doesn't affect us. I couldn't give a stuff about your or anyone elses finances, what happens in MY house is my concern and when I need to worry about the upper earnings tax, then I will.

simon the car said:

I have been for a lunch at the pubs in your Village many a time. My company built several houses opposite the school there a few years ago.

And this is relevant how?

simon the car said:

Have you tried the bus service to work, is it worth trying, could you do a transport share ??????????????????.

Why would I try the bus service when as I've already said it's going to add two hours to my working day.

Transport share isn't an option. I work for a very small company and no-one else comes from my part of the world. Plus car-sharing is not going to stop the extortion that this new tax proposes is it?

simon the car said:

Do you run a company car. Taxed on the fuel you put in it and taxed on using it to do your job.

No, my car is personal.

simon the car said:

The problem with the people in this country (myself included) is that we let it happen and do nothing about it. We settle for what we have and a bit more. Do we stand up for our rights like the French do NO.
The fuel strike is the perfect example.

Did I not already say this?

Your are correct, you did just having my say. Are you at work.