help to export a car

[andreat]

Hello, i'm Andrea, i'm italian and i live in Italy. Since my wife speak english because she is english, i've bought without problem a lhd jeep wrangler m.y. 1988 at the end of august 2008. The car's documents that i have are: log book(with the "11 part" already sent to swansee for export), a contract of sale done between me and the private dealer and a valid mot.
But i have the problem that the italian DVLA (called motorizzazione)wants a technical data of my jeep made by english DVLA or eventually made by a english official chrisler/jeep importer. My wife already phoned but DVLA told her what don't do technical data. The italian DVLA told me that the english dvla know what documents are necessary to register a car in Italy (european law)and they are obliged to produce these documents.

Is there someone able to help me?

I'm sorry for my terrible english,
thanks in advance
bye

[Louis.]

andreat said:

Hello, i'm Andrea, i'm italian and i live in Italy. Since my wife speak english because she is english, i've bought without problem a lhd jeep wrangler m.y. 1988 at the end of august 2008. The car's documents that i have are: log book(with the "11 part" already sent to swansee for export), a contract of sale done between me and the private dealer and a valid mot.
But i have the problem that the italian DVLA (called motorizzazione)wants a technical data of my jeep made by english DVLA or eventually made by a english official chrisler/jeep importer. My wife already phoned but DVLA told her what don't do technical data. The italian DVLA told me that the english dvla know what documents are necessary to register a car in Italy (european law)and they are obliged to produce these documents.

Is there someone able to help me?

I'm sorry for my terrible english,
thanks in advance
bye

Ciao Andrea,

While I can not help you directly in this problem I can point you towards a post in a forum where someone has had a similar problem. You may get more information there. Something suggested is a 'Pratiche Automobilistiche'.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44...

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36...
(this is about insurance but read the whole of the thread as further down there is more relevent information)

I hope you get it sorted.

[Scalper]

dvla will not issue the technical document required by the italian licensing agency
you must contact the manufacturer (or the italian importer for the manufacturer) to have the document issued

[andreat]

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

[chris watton]

andreat said:

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

I HATE Italian small and very petty minded jobsworth oriented bureaucracy.

[catso]

chris watton said:

andreat said:

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

I HATE Italian small and very petty minded jobsworth oriented bureaucracy.

Nothing a 'donation' to the right person wouldn't cure though........

[chris watton]

catso said:

chris watton said:

andreat said:

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

I HATE Italian small and very petty minded jobsworth oriented bureaucracy.

Nothing a 'donation' to the right person wouldn't cure though........

And I bet even the 'donation' is taxed! - - My stepson says catso a lot, is it a compliment?

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 21st February 13:12

[blueyes]

I found this link on the USA Jeep forum:

It has some of the details I think you might need.

You could post a question on that forum and maybe somebody will have the answer or documents you need.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56...

[blueyes]

Andrea,

I've registered on the USA Jeep forum and posted a question asking for the tech data.

I'll let you know in the next few days if anything turns up.

If it does.... you owe me a case of prosecco!


Edited to add:

Just found this:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/19010_XXX_B_PG.h...

It's all the original documents that came with your jeep:

"There's also information on the vehicle's electrical system, technical specifications, fluid capacities, general dimensions"

Edited by blueyes on Saturday 21st February 13:38

[Scalper]

andreat said:

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

was the car originally reigstered in great britain?
try with the british importer. it's easyer
for documents issued in the us the italian licensing agency will want to see an apostille
for documents issued in the uk it is sufficent to get the signature authenticated by the local chamber of commerce and by the italian consulate which will be mush easyer to obtain than an apostille

however as your jeep is not a european model it could be a bit more difficoult to get it registered in Italy as it may not comply with EU directives

[andreat]

next week i should receive news from uk chrysler, i think i'll do that scalper sayd.
X Scalper, i send you a private message, have you seen it?

[Scalper]

blueyes said:

Edited to add:

Just found this:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/19010_XXX_B_PG.h...

It's all the original documents that came with your jeep:

"There's also information on the vehicle's electrical system, technical specifications, fluid capacities, general dimensions"

unfortunately the document required by the italian licensing agency needs to be issued and signed by the manufacturer (or by one of its representatives), authenticated by the authorities, and it must list among other things the chassis number of the vehicle to which it refers, and the full list of EU directives with which the vechicle complies

[blueyes]

Scalper said:

blueyes said:

Edited to add:

Just found this:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/19010_XXX_B_PG.h...

It's all the original documents that came with your jeep:

"There's also information on the vehicle's electrical system, technical specifications, fluid capacities, general dimensions"

unfortunately the document required by the italian licensing agency needs to be issued and signed by the manufacturer (or by one of its representatives), authenticated by the authorities, and it must list among other things the chassis number of the vehicle to which it refers, and the full list of EU directives with which the vechicle complies

No problem. I have this reply from the Jeep forum:

"He can also take his VIN number and contact Jeep thru this page:

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&cat...

To request a build sheet. Be specific, it must say his model year, vin number and built sheet in the text area at the bottom. usually respond within 48 hours with an emailed list of what came stock on the rig."

Not sure about the EU directives though as it was a US import.

[catso]

chris watton said:

My stepson says catso a lot, is it a compliment?

I've been called worse........

[crofty1984]

andreat said:

Since DVLA doesn't produce technical date, is there other office that can do this? (like TUV in Germany)
I think is "funny" that DVLA don't do this because they have all car specifications,....or not?
I've already tryed to obtain tech. date from italian jeep importer, but they can't do this because my jeep is a canadian model and not european model.
Now i'm trying whit US jeep factory.

The really problem is the italian DVLA that wants the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a company that gets these specific documents for you. I think the manufacturers have copies, and they act as a middle man. I think I saw it on the TVR forum on here.

[andreat]

i'm not able to find this company in tvr forum.
Are you able?

[andreat]

no people able to give me a uk company name that can give me technical data (like TUV in germany)?

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[Nikkie]

Ho un'amico in Sicilia che ha una Wrangler 4.0 che usa per le competizione "off road" se potrebbe essere utile posso sentirlo.

In bocca al lupo!

[marine boy]

Nikkie said:

Ho un'amico in Sicilia che ha una Wrangler 4.0 che usa per le competizione "off road" se potrebbe essere utile posso sentirlo.

In bocca al lupo!

My Italian is not very good but I think Nikkie is saying,

A friend in Sicily has a Wrangler 4.0 which is used for off-road competition, after that it al get a bit confusing for me, sorry.

Oh and last line says' good luck hope you don't get eaten by a wolf or something along those lines.