Working in Italy
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Of all the places I've travelled to in the last few years, Italy is by far my favourite and it's a country I'd love to live & work in one day.
I graduated in engineering in 2006 so would be looking for some sort of similar role. What are my chances of getting something in Italy, and what's the best way of going about it?
I'm guessing my chances are pretty remote as I don't have a decent enough grasp of the language, but worth a shot I guess!
I graduated in engineering in 2006 so would be looking for some sort of similar role. What are my chances of getting something in Italy, and what's the best way of going about it?
I'm guessing my chances are pretty remote as I don't have a decent enough grasp of the language, but worth a shot I guess!
Could you put in for a job with a large company that has offices in Italy, then transfer over?
Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
crofty1984 said:
Could you put in for a job with a large company that has offices in Italy, then transfer over?
Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
That's good....................I've heard your Italian remember Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
have you started the lessons yet?Nikkie said:
crofty1984 said:
Could you put in for a job with a large company that has offices in Italy, then transfer over?
Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
That's good....................I've heard your Italian remember Or if you're really keen, spend a year on an intensive italian course, come over doing any job you can, then get a job in engineering.
Most international business will have native english speaker in high regard, (I'm a human spellchecker!) because the language of business is English
have you started the lessons yet?Non, ma io prendo la mia prima lezione su cinque novembre. (And if anyone DOES speak good Italian, you can see why I need them!)
Hi there
Have lived and worked in Italy for past two and a half years, having arrived only with the words "pasta" and "vino"; would say the best way to get the language is to do an intensive course for a couple of weeks, then live in the country and get stuck into the language and the life. You will feel like a complete muppet occasionally (regularly) at first; but it is worth it to accelerate the learning.
Re getting a job, pessimism about the current days of rust is not as strong here as in the UK, mainly because there was not the same bubble in the economy (lower credit, lower rate of mortgaging on houses etc). So saying the economy always was a bit grey around the edges...
Best of luck, it is an infuriating, bureaucratic, fantastic, life affirming place to live.... love it!
Have lived and worked in Italy for past two and a half years, having arrived only with the words "pasta" and "vino"; would say the best way to get the language is to do an intensive course for a couple of weeks, then live in the country and get stuck into the language and the life. You will feel like a complete muppet occasionally (regularly) at first; but it is worth it to accelerate the learning.
Re getting a job, pessimism about the current days of rust is not as strong here as in the UK, mainly because there was not the same bubble in the economy (lower credit, lower rate of mortgaging on houses etc). So saying the economy always was a bit grey around the edges...
Best of luck, it is an infuriating, bureaucratic, fantastic, life affirming place to live.... love it!
I would first check out VERY carefully the tax, INPs (NI) and other stuff relating to the Italian government fleecing you. You may find that direct tax and NI rates in the UK are not so bad after all. They take the VAT out of your bank every quarter, if you earn a modest amount (€42K), you are taxed at 40%, and they take an eye watering 24% of your GROSS income each December - and accountants fees are just as bad. (If self employed as a freelance professional) I asked my accountant what his fee was for the year, and said €1400. Fine, I thought. However, the 'actual' fee, when adding other taxes, IVA etc was in fact €2300.
If you have kids with you, with all that tax you pay, you'd expect the school books and materials to be free, like the UK, but no! We spend upwards of €600 per years on artificially highly priced school books alone!
Don't be a complete dope like me, who skipped the research before moving - if you have a job and can work in the UK, you will be financially much better off.
Aside from that, lifes great over here!
If you have kids with you, with all that tax you pay, you'd expect the school books and materials to be free, like the UK, but no! We spend upwards of €600 per years on artificially highly priced school books alone!
Don't be a complete dope like me, who skipped the research before moving - if you have a job and can work in the UK, you will be financially much better off.
Aside from that, lifes great over here!
You are getting good information from the other posters. I think that realistically, your best opportunity is to find a UK based company that will post you to an Italian facility. That is what happened to me - I didn't speak a word of Italian when I went out but most of work was conducted in English.
I found it quite simple to pick up office Italian - the real problem is social chit-chat which can be on any subject and is often quite colloquial (or even, God forbid, in dialect).
I found it quite simple to pick up office Italian - the real problem is social chit-chat which can be on any subject and is often quite colloquial (or even, God forbid, in dialect).
My favourite country, have lived there twice but for some reason came back here twice? 
anyway I found working there a little infuriating, I worked for engineering companies but found the 'domani' attitude a little frustrating, although now that I'm older I know I'd cope better. 
But I really enjoyed living there; the lifestyle, food, wine etc and the fact that I could be on the Mediterranean coast or in the mountains in less than a couple of hours, plus great driving roads to boot
I think you really should learn some of the lingo before going, my experience of working there that were not many people (in engineering jobs) that spoke much English and you'll get by/make friends much easier if you have at least the the basics.
IMO Italian is also quite an easy language to learn as it is phonetic (once you know how the letters sound) and there are much fewer 'exceptions' to grammar rules than English or French.
I intend to return again someday but, at the moment circumstances prevent it however the right 'opportunity' would see me back in a flash.
anyway I found working there a little infuriating, I worked for engineering companies but found the 'domani' attitude a little frustrating, although now that I'm older I know I'd cope better. But I really enjoyed living there; the lifestyle, food, wine etc and the fact that I could be on the Mediterranean coast or in the mountains in less than a couple of hours, plus great driving roads to boot
I think you really should learn some of the lingo before going, my experience of working there that were not many people (in engineering jobs) that spoke much English and you'll get by/make friends much easier if you have at least the the basics.
IMO Italian is also quite an easy language to learn as it is phonetic (once you know how the letters sound) and there are much fewer 'exceptions' to grammar rules than English or French.
I intend to return again someday but, at the moment circumstances prevent it however the right 'opportunity' would see me back in a flash.
as for high taxes, I worked there in the 'good old days' and didn't pay too much attention to them......
Edited by catso on Wednesday 25th February 22:09
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