Help with buying car in Holland

Help with buying car in Holland

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111KAB

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234 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Unsure if this is the correct thread to be posting in but here goes (if any better suggestions please advise) .....

I am looking to buy a LHD, second hand, car to bring back to the UK and register here. I make regular trips to France on business and I have decided it is easier for me to make the short motorway journey in the UK in a LHD then have the benefit of LHD in France.

Searching around the Netherlands seems the easier place to buy LHD and indeed BCA have an auction place .... http://www.bca-europe.com/en/group/Help/Import-Exp...

Don't really want to pay dealer price as I am confident in my own ability to check over and any warranty probably of little use.

Really looking for tips on

1) Any possible problems regarding importing/re-registering
2) Possible contacts in the Netherlands (nearer the airport the better) who may be able to assist.

Thanks all.

Hugo a Gogo

23,383 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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are you registered as a trade buyer?

I know BCA here in Germany won't let private buyers in

if you are, Germany is much cheaper

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 3rd December 13:01

111KAB

Original Poster:

234 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Hugo - yes registered as trade however when I looked through auction listings the Netherlands seemed on a par with Germany on prices and Schiphol airport easier for me to get to plus ferry/tunnel back slightly easier as well.

Active75

245 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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I found Germany cheaper, unless of course you have found exactly what you want in NL.

Allow 4 weeks min to have car re registered in UK. All info is on the DVLA site.

Basically you will have to apply for export plates from NL. Any Trade seller will/should be able to assist with this, ie take you to the local export office. Plates take about 2 hours or so to obtain. These plates are now dated and usually allow 30 days before expiry to take car back to UK.

Drive car back to UK and start the registering process. If its Ferrari, or Lamborghini, allow 8 weeks for Certification forms from the Factory.

Hugo a Gogo

23,383 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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well if you think about BCA Neuss (next door to Düsseldorf) I could tell you how to go about getting an export plate (easy)
you're looking at up to €150, for 1 month insurance, the plates, registering fee etc

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 3rd December 17:12

111KAB

Original Poster:

234 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Thanks guys - well think I have been persuaded to have another look at Germany. Not sure what BCA charge but they do a 'package' if you buy a car through them - transport plates, insurance and necessary paperwork. Any other links to German auction sites etc appreciated.

NAS

2,547 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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If you export a car registered in NL after December 2006 you get a part of the original BPM (tax) back.

Calculate the amount by license plate here....

http://www.vwe.nl/Diensten-Producten/Export/Zakeli...

marky1

1,085 posts

203 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Can any of you guys help with the following? I've bought a car in Holland. It has no VAT paid on it, no MOT and has never been registered in Holland. I am having trouble getting it sent via truck to my home in Gibraltar because I need to get a T1 Transit document. Does anyone know how I can get one? Or alternatively is there an easy way to get temporary registration plates and insurance and drive it to Gibraltar?

sunbeam alpine

7,078 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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marky1 said:
Can any of you guys help with the following? I've bought a car in Holland. It has no VAT paid on it, no MOT and has never been registered in Holland. I am having trouble getting it sent via truck to my home in Gibraltar because I need to get a T1 Transit document. Does anyone know how I can get one? Or alternatively is there an easy way to get temporary registration plates and insurance and drive it to Gibraltar?
I've bought a couple of cars out of Holland (I'm in Belgium). I don't think you'll be able to get transit plates in Holland if the car hasn't been registered there, and even if it was registered, without an MOT I'm not sure it can be done (I've never tried).

What I've done sometime is to use the number plates from one of my other cars, and get an insurance green card on the chassis number of the car, and drive home like that. It works because in Belgium number plates are transferable from car to car (i.e. registered to the owner, not the car). Maybe Gib is the same?

111KAB

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234 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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This was my original post and in that respect I eventually purchased a LHD car with UK plates - there were some problems but that is another story!

My point of posting again is to answer (in part) the last query. In Spain it is the car which is insured and not the driver ie my LHD is insured for anyone over 25 to drive. All I had to provide to the insurers was the vehicle registration number (in my case UK registration) and returned by email was my documentation. For 280€ per year I have full comp (350€ excess)- there was no need for MOT (although no doubt required somewhere in small print and it does have MOT)and the insurance has Europe wide breakdown cover.

Seems to me that you could look at this as a possible route for getting car insured (I assume it has some sort of registration number on it?) which will be part of your 'battle'. Years ago when buying new cars in Holland (favourable exchange rate time) all the cars I purchased had red transit plates on them but I suppose this is akin to the T1 authorisation you refer to.

marky1

1,085 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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I can't get any kind of a Gibraltar plate until the car arrives in Gibraltar unfortunately.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Cars are horribly expensive here in NL, Germany is usually much cheaper.

Will you be putting it straight on to an export plate? Not sure what the situation is when buying from auction - but you wont be able to register it on a regular Dutch plate without a Dutch address and ID.



Edited by kapiteinlangzaam on Tuesday 3rd December 16:50
Car prices in Holland are very high , I would have thought Germany would be a much cheaper option

111KAB

Original Poster:

234 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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marky1 said:
I can't get any kind of a Gibraltar plate until the car arrives in Gibraltar unfortunately.
My point really insofar as you only need a plate (from any country) to insure in Spain. Obviously other paperwork (registration document, MOT, ITV etc may be of concern to you and rightfully so) but I am insuring a UK plated car with a Spanish EU insurer (paperwork acceptable to DVLA to tax the car)for use in Europe.

crossy67

1,570 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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I bought my T5 from Holland for export to France. It was by far the cheapest place to buy from for me. Almost everyone in Holland speaks English, most speak German too.

Surly you can just go and buy the (now dissolving Paper) export plates with insurance and drive it home so long as you have the reg document from the original owner.

marky1

1,085 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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They won't give me Dutch Export plates (the paper ones you talk about) because car was never registered in Holland. I'm now looking at trying to get new German Export plates (it used to have them) but the car doesn't have an MOT (TUV?) Unless I can use a Dutch MOT to get German export plates, that would be easy to get one as the car is in Holland, but if I need a German TUV then I need to put the car on a truck to Germany to get one!

So, has anyone managed to get German Export Plates with a foreign MOT? I do notice here http://www.export-plate.com/sofunktionierts.html that all they says is "possibly a copy of an actual proof of technical control" - this makes me think maybe a Dutch one will work. They seem to be closed today though so I can't ask them. Anyone know? Thanks

sunbeam alpine

7,078 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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That website looks a bit dodgy (several simple language faults in the Dutch and French language pages), although a whois lookup shows it registered in 2010 - which is a bit more positive.

I entered some basic details and the costs rose quite quickly (more than 3x the price of the Dutch transit plate system).

What is the car? Is it really so special that it's worth the hassle?

What's to stop you hiring a car trailer and come to pick it up yourself? I don't think it would cost you much more!

marky1

1,085 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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sunbeam alpine said:
That website looks a bit dodgy (several simple language faults in the Dutch and French language pages), although a whois lookup shows it registered in 2010 - which is a bit more positive.

I entered some basic details and the costs rose quite quickly (more than 3x the price of the Dutch transit plate system).

What is the car? Is it really so special that it's worth the hassle?

What's to stop you hiring a car trailer and come to pick it up yourself? I don't think it would cost you much more!
Yeah I think the website is ok.
It's a Ferrari. One of the issues is, and I'm not 100% sure yet, to register it where I live it might have to come in as road worthy, i.e with an MOT, and plates (even if export plates) I'm outside the EU.

Cloggie

196 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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It seems that transit plates in Holland are difficult for cars that haven't had the BTW/VAT paid on them. At least one Ferrari dealer in Holland uses Hungarian transit plates/insurance which last for a month. The Hungarian registration document has the name of the car owner on it with a Romanian! address. The dealer charges about €400 for this service.

crossy67

1,570 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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I have a dodgy Dutch friend who claims to have recently bought a Ferrari to sell on. I know it's a long shot but I can smell fish lol.

marky1

1,085 posts

203 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Is he a dealer? What Ferrari is it?