New mini not really at all like a mini anymore
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Looks a little like a Suzuki Swift from the rear, with a bit of Peugeot thrown in for good measure. I think from other angles it looks a little more like a MINI, but agree they've strayed a long way from the template on this one. Maybe over time the design will mellow, but I do wonder if they'll regret the direction they've taken. Mrs ZS has had 4 MINI's now, but isn't too enamored with the new design so unless it grows on her over the next couple of years she'll probably be looking at other brands when it comes to changing her car.
Bobupndown said:
I'll stick to my 1963 original I think.
Congrats, 2nd post and someone can't resist mentioning the original, how predictable Zetec-S said:
Bobupndown said:
I'll stick to my 1963 original I think.
Congrats, 2nd post and someone can't resist mentioning the original, how predictable 
t then and they didn't make any reliable improvements over the years, so they were shot to the end.Dad had a 59 mini, which had 3 gearboxes under warranty.
I had a 74 1000, a 78 1100 clubman a 79 850 and an 88 1000. They were all s
t. Also had a 87 Metro 1275 sport and 85 metro turbo. They weren't much better. On the other had the 2001 Cooper we had was a decent car.
Pit Pony said:
I mean they were st then and they didn't make any reliable improvements over the years, so they were shot to the end.
Dad had a 59 mini, which had 3 gearboxes under warranty.
I had a 74 1000, a 78 1100 clubman a 79 850 and an 88 1000. They were all st. Also had a 87 Metro 1275 sport and 85 metro turbo. They weren't much better.
On the other had the 2001 Cooper we had was a decent car.
t then and they didn't make any reliable improvements over the years, so they were shot to the end.Dad had a 59 mini, which had 3 gearboxes under warranty.
I had a 74 1000, a 78 1100 clubman a 79 850 and an 88 1000. They were all s
t. Also had a 87 Metro 1275 sport and 85 metro turbo. They weren't much better. On the other had the 2001 Cooper we had was a decent car.
Yep. My dad had an early one, it wasn't that old but fell to bits. The old sliding window fell out one winters night as he was driving over Salisbury Plain, made for a rather unpleasant and very chilly journey.The fact they churned out the same basic design for 5 decades is one of the reasons we no longer have a "proper" motor industry in the UK.
From what I can gather about the original Mini...
You buy one, then purchase various parts, upgrades and spend X amount of money on restoring it and you end up with a fantastic go kart like car that handles like nothing else.
Or buy one that has had this done already.
Just look at them as a blank canvas and you won't be disappointed.
With regards the new one...nope it is horrible, however, the prices are reasonable from what I have seen.
You buy one, then purchase various parts, upgrades and spend X amount of money on restoring it and you end up with a fantastic go kart like car that handles like nothing else.
Or buy one that has had this done already.
Just look at them as a blank canvas and you won't be disappointed.
With regards the new one...nope it is horrible, however, the prices are reasonable from what I have seen.
LuS1fer said:
It bears no resemblance to the original or indeed to any Mini or MINI. Horrific styling from that bastion of horrific styling, BMW.
That said, I saw my first Funky Cat Ora from behind today. Wow, that deserves an award for ugly with weird lights.
This new mini reminded me of the Ora. That said, I saw my first Funky Cat Ora from behind today. Wow, that deserves an award for ugly with weird lights.
Zetec-S said:
Pit Pony said:
I mean they were st then and they didn't make any reliable improvements over the years, so they were shot to the end.
Dad had a 59 mini, which had 3 gearboxes under warranty.
I had a 74 1000, a 78 1100 clubman a 79 850 and an 88 1000. They were all st. Also had a 87 Metro 1275 sport and 85 metro turbo. They weren't much better.
On the other had the 2001 Cooper we had was a decent car.
t then and they didn't make any reliable improvements over the years, so they were shot to the end.Dad had a 59 mini, which had 3 gearboxes under warranty.
I had a 74 1000, a 78 1100 clubman a 79 850 and an 88 1000. They were all s
t. Also had a 87 Metro 1275 sport and 85 metro turbo. They weren't much better. On the other had the 2001 Cooper we had was a decent car.
Yep. My dad had an early one, it wasn't that old but fell to bits. The old sliding window fell out one winters night as he was driving over Salisbury Plain, made for a rather unpleasant and very chilly journey.The fact they churned out the same basic design for 5 decades is one of the reasons we no longer have a "proper" motor industry in the UK.
I wouldn't say we no longer have a motor industry in the UK. Many of the factories are still there. New factories have been built.
We are less vertically integrated (we no longer grow the carrots for the canteen) and rely on more suppliers, to do the engineering of complex systems.
Unfortunately very little of it is UK owned. Which means that the profit flows out of the UK.
If you want to change that, buy shares (if you can) in those companies that are listed on a stock exchange. Then you'll get a dividend which will flow back to the UK.
Martin315 said:
Bobupndown said:
I'll stick to my 1963 original I think.
Far better than these oversized pastiches 
I’m not keen on the styling of the latest car, especially the rear, but the size doesn’t bother me.
Perhaps it appears that I am the only one who doesn't mind progress, but here are my observations from the one pic.
There are still many copied styling cues from one to the other making it instantly recognisable but probably more so from a different angle. It looks like the side view would be virtually identical except for the spoiler. The window line is identical, the roofline is identical, the rear bumper looks very similar if you remove the diffuser, the only REAL change is the rear lights, which do look a bit gorky.
Do you all want every car to stay exactly the same?
Do you never want any style changes to be put on a car?
Is this what the current Vauxhall Viva should still look like?
https://classicsworld.co.uk/guides/vauxhall-viva-h...
Oh, and don't forget MINI is a brand name not an indication of size.
There are still many copied styling cues from one to the other making it instantly recognisable but probably more so from a different angle. It looks like the side view would be virtually identical except for the spoiler. The window line is identical, the roofline is identical, the rear bumper looks very similar if you remove the diffuser, the only REAL change is the rear lights, which do look a bit gorky.
Do you all want every car to stay exactly the same?
Do you never want any style changes to be put on a car?
Is this what the current Vauxhall Viva should still look like?
https://classicsworld.co.uk/guides/vauxhall-viva-h...
Oh, and don't forget MINI is a brand name not an indication of size.
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