R53 upper sump oil leak

R53 upper sump oil leak

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Neal500griff

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45 posts

61 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Hi, wonder if anyone can help!

My 2003 R53 Mini Cooper S has developed a small oil leak, no significant oil loss, just slight drip from bottom end occasionally.

Took it to my regular garage and they say its a slight leak from the upper sump? Said minis of this era “came out the factory with the leak” and that’s its a massive job to fix it and too big for them. They referred me to another specialist garage who say its an engine out job to fix it and labour charge alone is going to be at least £1,500!

Love my mini but not sure its worth spending that much on!

I’ve scoured you tube etc and replacing ordinary sump doesn’t appear a massive job but can’t seem to find anything about an upper sump at all, does such a thing even exist??? Anyone any ideas?

Was also wondering if trying some wynn oil seal or similar oils additive might do the trick, anyone had experience of those?

Thanks.

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Never heard of an "upper sump" on an r53.

By definition a sump is at the bottom.

Neal500griff

Original Poster:

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61 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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That’s what I thought, all I can find on internet is stuff about an ordinary standard sump on bottom of engine as you say!

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Basically, you need to find out where it is actually from and then get a price for the actual issue.

Most common places on the r53 to leak are:
Sump.
Rocker cover.
Oil sensor.
Oil filter housing.

None of these would cost £1500 to fix.

In fact all of these could be fixed & then leave enough for a service, brake disc/pad change, MOT & tyres for £1500........ OK, maybe not tyres, but you get the point.

Neal500griff

Original Poster:

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61 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Thanks, that’s why I posted, what the garages’ have told me make no sense.

Going to get it up on axel stands at weekend, clean it up and see if I can see exactly where the leak is.

If its just the sump may have a go at that myself, seems straight forward but think you need a special tool to get the belt off?

jfdi

1,140 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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The belt tension tool can be had for about £20.

Neal500griff

Original Poster:

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61 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Great, thanks

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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You won't need the belt off to do the sump.

Neal500griff

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61 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Thanks, That should makes it even simpler!

President Merkin

4,297 posts

26 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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If your car has air conditioning, you will need to remove the aircon compressor and therefore the serpentine belt.

Neal500griff

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61 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Yep, it’s go AC, so not as simple then, and I’ll need that special tool!
Thanks

E-bmw

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Friday 17th March 2023
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President Merkin said:
If your car has air conditioning, you will need to remove the aircon compressor and therefore the serpentine belt.
Is that due to where it mounts then?

President Merkin

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26 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Unfortunately due to where the compressor mounts, it restricts access to the sump bolts on the front offside of the oil pan.


Neal500griff

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61 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Hi, thanks for the schematic, very useful. Where can I find that and drawings for rest of the engine please?

President Merkin

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Friday 17th March 2023
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