2017 JCW Auto ‘box Problems - Lumpy

2017 JCW Auto ‘box Problems - Lumpy

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Fazmo

Original Poster:

10 posts

128 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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For the last couple of weeks, during a long drive on a and B roads, a couple of hundred miles that is, the 8 speed auto gearbox becomes very keen to kick-down.

It goes back to normal the next day and is then ok pottering around during the week.

The worst problem is that no matter how lightly I accelerate, when it gets to about 15 mph it kicks down charges off then sorts itself out with a heavy clunk … very embarrassing it looks like I’m trying to race everybody and doing it badly

Any idea what may be the problem or how I can resolve it …

Cheers

edited to remove reference to ZF ... I had just assumed it was ZF

Edited by Fazmo on Saturday 28th May 15:08


Edited by Fazmo on Sunday 29th May 09:49

un1eash

619 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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It'll be an Aisin gearbox, first thing would be to scan for error codes. If nothing it's a trip to the dealers to diagnose.

Maracus

4,476 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Pretty sure the F56 got the ZF box.

Our older R56 had the Aisin 6 speeder.

un1eash

619 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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8 speed ZF is for longitudinal engines, it won't fit a mini. 8 speed auto is Aisin, it's what's in my F54 JCW and F40 M135i. Press releases always get it wrong.

Maracus

4,476 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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un1eash said:
8 speed ZF is for longitudinal engines, it won't fit a mini. 8 speed auto is Aisin, it's what's in my F54 JCW and F40 M135i. Press releases always get it wrong.
Every day is a school day smile

Fazmo

Original Poster:

10 posts

128 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Thanks for the info ... I didn't realise it wasn't a ZF.

Alfa Pete

435 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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I had a Clubman 2018 SD with this box and had the gearbox replaced under warranty.
Initially it was a bit lumpy and then I had transmission error come up and car going into limp mode.
The tech reckoned it was probably the actuators and that with age/mileage the trans oil gets dirty and clogs them. This despite Mini insisting on them being sealed for life.
My car was at 40k miles and 2 1/2 years old so the gearbox was replaced under warranty.
The replacement was noticeably smoother but I sold the car shortly after.

Fazmo

Original Poster:

10 posts

128 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Cheers Pete.

I had mine booked in at mini specialist for some diagnostics but they said that it wasn't an oil leak then all they could do was reset it to default settings and hope it didn't learn any bad habits. Other than that they said I needed a gearbxo spcialist.

I cancelled the appointment though as it settled down. Not sure if it is still a bit lumpy or whether I'm imagining it ... its defo not hunting for 3rd gear any more though.

I'd like to swap it, probably for a z4m, but struggling to get agreement! I'll be annoyed if the problem returns and ends up being expensive!

Alfa Pete

435 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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A bit more detail on what happened with mine.
Box worked fine up to about 40k miles. Then noticed it was a bit sudden , lumpy on upshifts occasionally.
When I did experience the car going into limp mode it would hold onto a gear and not upshift.
I’d start a journey and everything was ok but once the car was properly warmed up after about half an hour it would start to misbehave.
The car went into Mini and on the first visit they plugged it into diagnostics and couldn’t find any fault.
Got the car back went for a drive and after half an hour the problem returned. Drove the car back my Mini dealership and left the car running, whilst I got the technician to come and have a look whilst it was still in limp mode. It was only then that they recognised the fault.
I was told that rather than chase the fault it was easier to put in a new gearbox which Mini agreed to and it was replaced without quibble.
I dread to think what that would have cost me if the car wasn’t still under warranty.

Alfa Pete

435 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Some interesting info here from others who have had warranty claims / new gearboxes : https://www.minif56.com/threads/defect-oct-18-jcw-...