R56 2013 Cooper S - concerns with a potential purchase

R56 2013 Cooper S - concerns with a potential purchase

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MGZR1602002

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4 posts

99 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Hello. I’ve had a look at a 2013 R56 Cooper S. It has 52000 miles on it. There’s a couple of items I found on checking and quick test drive. Are these concerns or normal?
From cold the top end was noisy- tappety rattle. With the bonnet closed it wasn’t very loud. This remained after a 20 minute run. N18 engine so I thought this was the more reliable option.
Pulls to the left noticeably. It seems to track well but follows a curve to the left (including from the RH lane so up the camber). Tracking or something to check further for known issues?
Muggy interior unless temp set low and fan fast. With aircon on but temp raised to 19 plus after checking aircon blew cold (it does) the cabin started to feel muggy and the screen misted slightly ( to show wiping marks from previously). I’m not clear on the Auto function but hadn’t selected recirculate. Only time I’ve had this before was a leaking heater matrix in the cabin. Is it a known problem with a simple fix?
The service history has a 24000 mile / 3yr gap since the last service. The dealer is chasing up the previous owners to see if they have details. I’m thinking if there’s no history then I’m better off finding one that has rather than risk timing chain or Vanos damage. Oil level is difficult to read - there’s some there, doesn’t feel gritty and no mayo.
Anything else to check?

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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The first issue you found would have me walking away personally.

Pulling to one side is likely to be suspension/brakes & could cost £s or £000.00s, no idea until the issue is diagnosed properly.

AC issue could just be lack of use.

twokcc

881 posts

184 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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owned a 2011 n18 Mini Cooper S bought in for a couple of years non of the problems you mention.Great car only sold it to get a f56 Cooper S 7 speed DCT
Id be looking at another one(It was the 4th one I had test driven) and some superbly specced cars that are lot more than basic chili pack cars

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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twokcc said:
owned a 2011 n18 Mini Cooper S bought in for a couple of years non of the problems you mention.Great car only sold it to get a f56 Cooper S 7 speed DCT
Id be looking at another one(It was the 4th one I had test driven) and some superbly specced cars that are lot more than basic chili pack cars
No issue about what you say but the OP is talking about a specific car that is ringing alarm bells.

stevemcs

8,990 posts

100 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Injectors can be a little noisy, but generally the N18 is pretty good. If you fancy a clubman mine will be coming up forsale soon.

rigga

8,754 posts

208 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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They are not a quiet engine in either 14 or 18 guise, the direct injection does make them seem tappety.

Steering pulling, may just be a tracking issue, what state are the tyres in

cwdude

18 posts

45 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Just bought a late 2013 cooper s. I was a bit iffy about the history on it at first but fairly happy. Its a keeper. I am putting it in for an oil change pronto. The Mini service intervals are huge (20k miles) so that could be the lack of history. These really benefit from regular oil changes so plan on one every 5-8k.
I have found mine to tug the wheel especially on the modern day big potholes. Reading elsewhere they do tend to tramline etc. It tracks straight and no difference turning left or right but heard that they are a bit sensitive to suspension geo so its getting a precautionary check.

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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rigga said:
Steering pulling, may just be a tracking issue,
Steering won't be a tracking issue, if the tracking alone is out the wheel doesn't sit at straight ahead but the wheels scrub the in/outside more than the other, but the car will not pull to one side.

MGZR1602002

Original Poster:

4 posts

99 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Thanks for the information. The service history has turned up now so I’ll have another look at the car. There’s not much difference to a 2014 to 2016 F56 in price so I’ll have a look at those as well.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,743 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Absolutely millions of N18 R56 Cooper S available so if you've any doubts about one of them, look at another. Personally I'd be walking away given their plentiful availability with the problems you've listed.

MrC986

3,559 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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OP, these cars need regular oil changes as the manufacturer recommended service intervals were too long....low oil levels can lead to timing change stretch which then leads to other things. Ideally you should try & find an enthusiast owned car that has been over serviced. As others say, there are plenty of good ones out there so even if a dealer says they’ve just serviced it/changed the oil, it wouldn’t cure possible bigger issues - don’t walk away from it, but run is my suggestion.

PS 4 wheel geo & decent tyres are important for good handling.