How many miles do you usually get out of your front tyres?

[cerb4.5lee]

I've just ordered a set of Michelin PS4's for the fronts on my Cooper S. They will replace the Michelin Primacy 3's that have lasted 16k miles.

How many miles do you usually get out of your Minis front tyres?

Cheers.

[ghiblicup]

My cup 2's are just about gone on the Challenge it's done 10,000 but then I do swap wheels for winter so I'd say 7,000

[blue al]

Ado8r about 6k if not rotated and used on 3 track days

[Dave.]

7k from a set of Rainsport3s, another 6k after swapping fronts to back etc.

Similar from a set of 4 RE002, again swapping around.

[cerb4.5lee]

Blimey and I've done alright with mine then thanks.

[cerb4.5lee]

Dave. said:

7k from a set of Rainsport3s, another 6k after swapping fronts to back etc.

I will admit that I really fancied doing that myself and swap them front to back. I'm now going to have PS4 on the front and Primacy on the rear, and I don't like having different tyres(at least they are the same brand though) on a car. Whereas if I'd done the front to back swap I could have possibly swapped all 4 at the same time.

[Dave.]

I did used to have a very fun early morning commute, now it's manly motorway, & tend not to use the Mini as much.

I tend to even them out & replace all 4 at once on all my cars where possible.

[stevemcs]

20k on the clubby and 18k and counting on the F57

[cerb4.5lee]

Just to update this. I am so impressed with the Michelin PS4 in comparison to the Primacy and it is night and day. The Primacy would spin up at almost any opportunity, whereas the PS4 just grip and get on with it. So anyone with Michelin Primacy I'd take the opportunity of swapping to the Michelin PS4 when you can for sure.

[GaryF]

Hi, I also have Michelin Pilot Sport 4 on the front now (replacing Michelin Pilot Super Sports). They seem to be just as good as the MPSS, which is to say fantastic. Perhaps also better in the wet - I seem to be getting much more of the 280 lb-ft down now in the wet. Perhaps it was just the tread depth on the old tyres and the new power that was causing the problem.

I found the MPSS were really good as far as wear goes. I don't have exact figures on miles but it has to be ~20k which is great for a reasonably powerful FWD car. Maybe my right foot isn't heavy enough, though I don't think that is the case... Hopefully the new Michelins will be just as good.

I used to get 7-9k miles with an RS Turbo and I deemed that rather poor (Yokohama A008). Maybe they were very soft with good grip back in the day.

Enjoy the MPS4 OP.

[cerb4.5lee]

GaryF said:

Enjoy the MPS4 OP.

Thanks.

I have them on my 370Z and I really rate them, but on the Mini they seem even better to me because the previous Primacy 3's were so poor. It is great now that I can put my foot down in the Mini and it actually puts the power down cleanly.

I can't believe the difference between two different tyres that come from the same manufacturer. The Primacy 3 is such a poor tyre imo, whereas I can't fault the PS4 at all.

[fatboy b]

cerb4.5lee said:

GaryF said:

Enjoy the MPS4 OP.

Thanks.

I have them on my 370Z and I really rate them, but on the Mini they seem even better to me because the previous Primacy 3's were so poor. It is great now that I can put my foot down in the Mini and it actually puts the power down cleanly.

I can't believe the difference between two different tyres that come from the same manufacturer. The Primacy 3 is such a poor tyre imo, whereas I can't fault the PS4 at all.

I got fed up with the Primacy’s,when they were 1/2 worn. Switched all 4 to MPS4S. Great tyres. But they are getting chewed up the front

The rears on my XFR-S did 22k on the last set after p-zeros only managed 8k.

[cerb4.5lee]

fatboy b said:

I got fed up with the Primacy’s,when they were 1/2 worn. Switched all 4 to MPS4S. Great tyres. But they are getting chewed up the front

The rears on my XFR-S did 22k on the last set after p-zeros only managed 8k.

Nice one!

I'm still at that stage where I'm being a bit more cautious on the new tyres(not wanting to wear them down too quickly), but I'm sure that it won't be that long before I'm working them really hard again though.

[Majorslow]

Blimey you must drive it hard.

I only have a Mini one on 16" alloys, the car is used for teaching, so now and again get a wee bit of wheel spin, and do loads of emergency stops, so loads of ABS skidding.

Even so I still get between 20-30k out of my Michelin "energy savers"

I couldn't afford to do my job if I wore tyres that quickly

[cerb4.5lee]

Majorslow said:

Blimey you must drive it hard.

I only have a Mini one on 16" alloys, the car is used for teaching, so now and again get a wee bit of wheel spin, and do loads of emergency stops, so loads of ABS skidding.

Even so I still get between 20-30k out of my Michelin "energy savers"

I couldn't afford to do my job if I wore tyres that quickly

Apart from my old S14a 200SX(because I couldn't resist going sideways in it most of the time!), the Cooper S has been the worst car I've had for quick tyre wear for sure(well the fronts anyway).

I do have some very quiet and lovely country roads right on my doorstep, so I do enjoy pushing it a fair bit every now and then.

You've done brilliant to get that mileage out of them. It will be interesting to see how long my rear tyres last, because they still have 5mm on them and I'm up to 18k miles with those now.

[GaryF]

The rears seem to last 'forever'. I'll need to replace my MPSS rears due to age rather than wear when they start to crack / go hard. I'll replace with MPS4 to match the new fronts. Great tyres altogether.

A few weeks back I replaced the fronts on my Mum's Cooper S with Khumo Ecsta. I've not pushed it on yet but they feel reasonably sticky to the touch and surel are better than the hard nasty Continentals that came off it. They were quite a bit cheaper than Michilins, but she doesn't tend to drive it on the door handles so much these days so I figured a reasonable compromise.

[E-bmw]

Unfortunately, you will likely find that many mid-range to budget tyre manufacturers exchange grip for longevity with softer compounds.

I would personally (depending on which they are) have Contis over Kumhos any day.

[Dave.]

E-bmw said:

Unfortunately, you will likely find that many mid-range to budget tyre manufacturers exchange grip for longevity with softer compounds.

I would personally (depending on which they are) have Contis over Kumhos any day.

New contis > new kumhos > old contis > old kumhos....

[Majorslow]

As a matter of interest, do you guys, when replacing front tyres, have the rears put onto the front, then new tyres onto the back?

[GaryF]

I don't go to the trouble of doing this, no. Never have done it, but that's not to say that it is a good way of 'getting through' the rears as they can stagnate and go off with age (crack, go hard and lose grip).