Mini to stop JCW production for europe temporarily...
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European JCW production will be temporarily stopped later this year due to the new WLTP regulations.
What is WLTP? Replacing the NEDC testing procedure, the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) laboratory test is used to measure fuel consumption and CO2 emissions from passenger cars, as well as their pollutant emissions. Consider this test as fallout from the recent diesel-gate scandal as it’s meant to be far more stringent in how it tests for CO2 in a variety of situations.
What’s Happening to JCWs and When?
F56/F57 JCW & ALL4: Production stop from 06/18 to 03/19
F54/F60 JCW: Production stop from 06/18 to 07/19
JCW Engine Kit: The Engine software has been WLPT approved but the exhaust is not. This means all new JCW Engine Kits in Europe will only come with JCW Engine management software
Due to the interruption in JCW offerings, MINI is planning to offer a European only “special edition” Cooper S + JCW Power kit + Aero kit. There’s not much known about this model yet but look for details in the coming months.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2018/03/27/mini-stop-j...
What is WLTP? Replacing the NEDC testing procedure, the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) laboratory test is used to measure fuel consumption and CO2 emissions from passenger cars, as well as their pollutant emissions. Consider this test as fallout from the recent diesel-gate scandal as it’s meant to be far more stringent in how it tests for CO2 in a variety of situations.
What’s Happening to JCWs and When?
F56/F57 JCW & ALL4: Production stop from 06/18 to 03/19
F54/F60 JCW: Production stop from 06/18 to 07/19
JCW Engine Kit: The Engine software has been WLPT approved but the exhaust is not. This means all new JCW Engine Kits in Europe will only come with JCW Engine management software
Due to the interruption in JCW offerings, MINI is planning to offer a European only “special edition” Cooper S + JCW Power kit + Aero kit. There’s not much known about this model yet but look for details in the coming months.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2018/03/27/mini-stop-j...
WLTP is a fricking nightmare for those of us in the industry.
Firstly the ‘Worldwide’ bit is a joke, the USA and China are having nothing to do with it.
That aside, it is going to be a total clusterf
k to implement. I write software for manufacturers, to help support their configurators. The basic premise of WLTP is that various options can affect the weight and/or aerodynamics of a vehicle, which in turn affects its CO2 output, which affects its VED. Want those Sports Seats in your new motor? They might weigh a KG more than standard seats ... affects CO2 under WLTP. Different wheel size? Ditto. When you consider all of the different permutations of options that can affect weight and thus CO2 it becomes incredibly complicated to get an overall CO2 figure to base VED on. The Leasing industry has a massive headache here, because they can’t work to a standard VED value by individual model code for each manufacturer.
Expect a lot more of this kind of thing, unfortunately.
Firstly the ‘Worldwide’ bit is a joke, the USA and China are having nothing to do with it.
That aside, it is going to be a total clusterf
k to implement. I write software for manufacturers, to help support their configurators. The basic premise of WLTP is that various options can affect the weight and/or aerodynamics of a vehicle, which in turn affects its CO2 output, which affects its VED. Want those Sports Seats in your new motor? They might weigh a KG more than standard seats ... affects CO2 under WLTP. Different wheel size? Ditto. When you consider all of the different permutations of options that can affect weight and thus CO2 it becomes incredibly complicated to get an overall CO2 figure to base VED on. The Leasing industry has a massive headache here, because they can’t work to a standard VED value by individual model code for each manufacturer. Expect a lot more of this kind of thing, unfortunately.
Why not measure the car's emissions individually?
This is already done annually for the MoT test, so the equipment exists.
It could be done at point of sale, valid for three years and then recalculated from the MoT results.
This would allow for engines becoming less efficient due to poor servicing and/or performance modifications.
Hilariously, it may be simpler to revert to the original metric for VED, the car's weight. Heavier cars cause more road wear and typically have higher emissions. Unlikely to happen since the current love child electric/hybrid cars tend to be heavier than a similar vehicle of the same size.
Of course, moving the regressive and over-complex VED onto the fuel tariffs would make more sense as cars that used more fuel (from either distance or poor economy) would be taxed more. Adding a vehicle-use levy on electricity (a trivial task for smart meters) would allow taxation to be dovetailed smoothly as the market shifts away from ICE to other, less locally polluting, forms.
This is already done annually for the MoT test, so the equipment exists.
It could be done at point of sale, valid for three years and then recalculated from the MoT results.
This would allow for engines becoming less efficient due to poor servicing and/or performance modifications.
Hilariously, it may be simpler to revert to the original metric for VED, the car's weight. Heavier cars cause more road wear and typically have higher emissions. Unlikely to happen since the current love child electric/hybrid cars tend to be heavier than a similar vehicle of the same size.
Of course, moving the regressive and over-complex VED onto the fuel tariffs would make more sense as cars that used more fuel (from either distance or poor economy) would be taxed more. Adding a vehicle-use levy on electricity (a trivial task for smart meters) would allow taxation to be dovetailed smoothly as the market shifts away from ICE to other, less locally polluting, forms.
sad61t said:
Why not measure the car's emissions individually?.
In short, the pricing of a new vehicle prior to order. For many reasons we need to have an ‘on the road price’ which comprises the cost of the car (fixed), the cost of delivery to dealer (fixed), first registration fee (fixed) and VED - in a post-WLTP world that becomes variable at the point you are spec’ing the car, it is all variable depending on the chosen options. That we have a variable OTR price is a massive issue for dealer quotations, finance residual calculations, marketing literature etc etc.
WLTP is a great idea in theory (if you subscribe to the view that CO2 based duty is the best way of raising taxes/discouraging environmentally unfriendly vehicles) but has its complications that the industry is yet to get to grips with.
By the time it is implemented some bright spark in Government will have decided that NOX based charging is flavour of the month and we will be back to,square one.
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