Bentley Supersport of Ferrari 599

Bentley Supersport of Ferrari 599

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johnsew

Original Poster:

11 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Which one should we buy. A Ferrari 599 2 years old with 4000 miles or a Bentley Supersport 4 seater pre-registered both the same money?

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Ask the same question, but phrase it slightly differently, Ferrari or Audi?

You may the find the answer a little easier wink

johnsew

Original Poster:

11 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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True, but the Bentley is still regarded a British Car as is Rolls Royce, although it is made by BMW!

SportingBearsMax

237 posts

188 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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At the NEC show in November Sporting Bears were supported by the chaps at Crewe and given a Supersport to offer Dream Rides to raise money. While there(over 100 cars each day) many Ferrari drivers came across after following me and commented "wow - which Bentley is that to handle so good" and all passengers were chuffed at its capabilities.

I drove the Bentley for a week, at the NEC over 3 days I spent a solid 6 hours a day driving it and never tired. As to the Ferarri 599, this is a different slice of motoring, in the Bentley you can have 4 people in and still have fun, while the Ferrari will always get the looks.

Good luck with your choice, why not help out the Sporting Bears when you've decided?


CONTI T

104 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
Ask the same question, but phrase it slightly differently, Ferrari or Audi?

You may the find the answer a little easier wink
loser,

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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confused

No need for that, I think the Conti GT is a stonking car, fantastic things.

I would rather have a Conti T though, with a user name like yours, surely some empathy?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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CONTI T said:
loser,
rofl . . . . May I suggest that this book may be of benefit to you?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Win-Friends-Influence-...

ted 191

1,425 posts

232 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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I had the same dilemma, made a couple of offers on SS's but dealers had them in stock too long and wanted too much money, then a great spec 599 came up and after lots of haggling I bought it. Couldn't believe how well the SS drove, but I'm not disappointed with the 599.

CONTI T

104 posts

177 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
confused

No need for that, I think the Conti GT is a stonking car, fantastic things.

I would rather have a Conti T though, with a user name like yours, surely some empathy?
if you book yourself a day around the crewe factory you will see the gt/spur etc are still very much a handbuilt car i used to have the same stupid perception that the new cars are audi, its utter rubbish they are as much quality as the larger cars , yes i have also got a CONTI T and a CONTI SEDANCA, but my supersports has made both cars seem pointless yes i love the look off both them old fat hard looking cars but to own them now is just like keeping paintings i dont drive them, no offence on the loser quip it just grates me when they get slated as audi.
such comments need to be spoken by a berk like clarckson when he fancies slagging bentley and lickin astons ass............

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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TBF, I was mistaken when I said Audi, as Audi use the D3 platform (although the same drivetrain). What I should have said was Volkswagen, as the GT uses the D1 Phaeton platform. Whatever, a world away from the prehistoric Rolls Royce SZ platform of the T & SC.

smile

PaulHogan

6,594 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
Ask the same question, but phrase it slightly differently, Fiat or Audi?

You may the find the answer a little easier wink
EFA

ph123

1,841 posts

225 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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In any situation like this that the op finds himself in, the answer has to lie with the buyer.
You have to ask yourself the question: exactly what role will the new car take in your family? And then keep redefinining what is important to you, very closely. Balance that with the financial considerations and the answer should sort of take shape for you.
Brand images apart, it's fairly obvious one is sporting and hard and sharp and enormous fun, the other a purer GT car, easier to live with, less character to get on your nerves. I must say the Bentley is an amazingly practical beast and safe too, with all-wheel drive and that huge boot. More considerate for passenger.
But there's also something about that beautiful Italian shape and badge ... hope it's not just a question of what deal you can do and that you come back and tell us what you buy.

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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PaulHogan said:
Balmoral Green said:
Ask the same question, but phrase it slightly differently, Fiat or Audi?

You may the find the answer a little easier wink
EFA
hehe

The Fiat example is more about ownership though. I would imagine that there aren't that many shared or common components with the parent company on a 599.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
PaulHogan said:
Balmoral Green said:
Ask the same question, but phrase it slightly differently, Fiat or Audi?

You may the find the answer a little easier wink
EFA
hehe

The Fiat example is more about ownership though. I would imagine that there aren't that many shared or common components with the parent company on a 599.
yes

Whereas the Bentley contains a significant number of VW components and is essentially only trimmed and put together at Crewe (yes I have been round the factory in Crewe and I've also been round the factory’s in Germany where the running gear and chassis / body are made) The Ferrari shares little with other FIAT group cars, with the possible exception of some bits on various Maserati’s, but they were dribble down components, where the Ferrari had them first.

Doesn’t make the Bentley any worse a car, to the point that it was at launch, IMHO the best car yet to come out of Zwickau / Dresden / Crewe . . . . .although the image is a bit too premiership footballers Mrs for me.

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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This is my favourite GT, belongs to a couple of friends of mine, as does the Turbo R.





We call the Conti 'Fritz', which is quite ironic really, as the Turbo R deserves the name more than the Conti does, as Austrian born Fritz Feller was chief stylist at RR when the SZ range was being developed.

Edited by Balmoral Green on Wednesday 14th September 20:33

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Doesn’t make the Bentley any worse a car
Absolutely.

My daily driver is a Skoda Fabia vRS, and as everyone knows, it's a Volkswagen, it uses the same PQ24/25 platform and the same 1.4TSI/DSG as the Polo/Ibiza/A1. People often mention this, but I don't turn around and call them a loser though when they do biggrin

gary71

1,981 posts

186 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
yes

Whereas the Bentley contains a significant number of VW components and is essentially only trimmed and put together at Crewe (yes I have been round the factory in Crewe....
...let's not forget styled, designed, developed and engineered in Crewe smile

CONTI T

104 posts

177 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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well no matter how i look at them italian fiat sportscars they dont give me the horn but the audi supersports sure does,

Balmoral Green

41,775 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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smile

Ron Fellows

1,517 posts

255 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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I have to say I love both. Having driven both and they are completely different cars. I'd still have the supersports overall. I know I've only got the GT but for a few months I was considering selling the Vette and Range to buy a supersport or 599. I settled on the GT so I could keep my Vette as I've completely got it just how I want it.

Only thing that I didnt like on the 599 was that it actually felt heavier and more difficult to play with on the twisties. Far more understeer than the Bentley. I know sounds weird and that it should be the other way around but that was how I found them on driving them back to back.

I think it will come down to personal choice at the end of the day.