306 S16 Exhaust / Catalyser
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Dear All,
I have a prob I hope you can help with. I have a 1995 306 S16 which I've had from new. It has previously been serviced by Peugout but now, due to a lack of income, I am doing the Biz.
I have a hole at the rear end of the middle exhaust pipe and wanted to replace it. Rear bolts and clamps came off easily but have arrived at the front clamp with the catalyser and have found it welded on as below ....
I've now managed to remove the two nuts and bolts but the clamps, not surprisingly I guess, have not dropped off.
My question is - Is this standard for these axhausts coz the weld appears to go all the way round the top as well so wasn't applied in situ on the car ?
Many thanks for any and all ideas.
PJ
I have a prob I hope you can help with. I have a 1995 306 S16 which I've had from new. It has previously been serviced by Peugout but now, due to a lack of income, I am doing the Biz.
I have a hole at the rear end of the middle exhaust pipe and wanted to replace it. Rear bolts and clamps came off easily but have arrived at the front clamp with the catalyser and have found it welded on as below ....
I've now managed to remove the two nuts and bolts but the clamps, not surprisingly I guess, have not dropped off.
My question is - Is this standard for these axhausts coz the weld appears to go all the way round the top as well so wasn't applied in situ on the car ?
Many thanks for any and all ideas.
PJ
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Saturday 4th September 14:38
Thanks OM for that. Those parts suppliers might be a little difficult for me to accesss as I live in Lux.
Things have become mysteriouser and mysteriouser....
Have now separated the two units and it turns out that there is no flange on the Cat
The cat pipe just extends for about 5 inches into the Exhaust tube and the abutment flange of the exhaust has been tacked onto the intruding Cat pipe.
Very mysterious indeed.
Any thoughts or experiences ?
Things have become mysteriouser and mysteriouser....
Have now separated the two units and it turns out that there is no flange on the Cat
The cat pipe just extends for about 5 inches into the Exhaust tube and the abutment flange of the exhaust has been tacked onto the intruding Cat pipe.Very mysterious indeed.
Any thoughts or experiences ?
I`ve allways had problems replaceing exhaust parts on 16V 306`s with non Peugeot parts,they never fit together correctly with wronge size flange etc.The last mechanic had this problem,cut off the flange and welded it.The only way to get it right first time is to pay lots of £££££££`s (0r euros)for Peugeot original parts.
That isn't a weld it's just rust and melted galvanise.
It's a bit difficult to understand from your post but as standard the centre section does extend inside the joint to the cat. IE, there's a smaller bore section that "slots" inside the cat and the clamp just pulls it all together.
It sounds like the bit that slots into the cat might have snapped off the centre pipe (mine did this) and is now lodged inside the cat pipe so if you pull it out you will end up with a flange (hoho) on the cat side. New centre pipe will have a male joint and a sticky out bit that slots back in and job's a good un.
Not sure if this makes sense? A picture of what it looks like now would help
It's a bit difficult to understand from your post but as standard the centre section does extend inside the joint to the cat. IE, there's a smaller bore section that "slots" inside the cat and the clamp just pulls it all together.
It sounds like the bit that slots into the cat might have snapped off the centre pipe (mine did this) and is now lodged inside the cat pipe so if you pull it out you will end up with a flange (hoho) on the cat side. New centre pipe will have a male joint and a sticky out bit that slots back in and job's a good un.
Not sure if this makes sense? A picture of what it looks like now would help
Edited by StoatInACoat on Wednesday 8th September 22:03
Well, thanks for your replies but the situation hasn't improved.
Here is the Cat. It has the smaller diameter and slides INSIDE the centre box.
As you will see from the profile photo, the Cat originally had a collar welded on. Most of this collar has rusted away but it is where the Middle box flange butts up against and originally fitted within the clamp.
Here is the old Middle box with, as you can see, the corroded but solid flange.
Now I've been down to the Peugout dealer who has given me a printout of the expanded parts diagram and on this diagram the Cat has an expanded lip which would match perfectly with the middle box.
After explaining my situation the Peugout rep refused to believe that it was a situation sold or worked on by Peugout or their authourised representatives.
Looks like I'm going to have to GunGum up the joint and crush the Middle Box flange onto the Cat stub.
Can't believe the Wife wants another one
Here is the Cat. It has the smaller diameter and slides INSIDE the centre box.
As you will see from the profile photo, the Cat originally had a collar welded on. Most of this collar has rusted away but it is where the Middle box flange butts up against and originally fitted within the clamp.
Here is the old Middle box with, as you can see, the corroded but solid flange.
Now I've been down to the Peugout dealer who has given me a printout of the expanded parts diagram and on this diagram the Cat has an expanded lip which would match perfectly with the middle box.
After explaining my situation the Peugout rep refused to believe that it was a situation sold or worked on by Peugout or their authourised representatives.
Looks like I'm going to have to GunGum up the joint and crush the Middle Box flange onto the Cat stub.
Can't believe the Wife wants another one
Just to finish this thread off....
The situation has been saved by GunGum products:
- Wire-brushed the affected areas
- covered the internal diameter with Exhaust (heat) Gum
- Pushed the two together and added more Heat Gum to the joint
- Bound the joint with foil and exhaust bandage
- Covered the bandaged joint with the screw-down Junction Foil
- Clamped the joint end with the standard exhaust clamp
- Clamped the free end with a Jubilee Clip
Sounds like the joint is, at last, sealed - off to the MOT station now (Fingers crossed)
Thanks for all your comments
The situation has been saved by GunGum products:
- Wire-brushed the affected areas
- covered the internal diameter with Exhaust (heat) Gum
- Pushed the two together and added more Heat Gum to the joint
- Bound the joint with foil and exhaust bandage
- Covered the bandaged joint with the screw-down Junction Foil
- Clamped the joint end with the standard exhaust clamp
- Clamped the free end with a Jubilee Clip
Sounds like the joint is, at last, sealed - off to the MOT station now (Fingers crossed)
Thanks for all your comments
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