Citroen ZX diesel

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Wycombe83

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439 posts

183 months

Monday 3rd May 2010
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I'll be looking at one of these this week.
What do you look for in terms of condition? Is the non-turbo diesel engine that reliable?

Cheers in advance smile

Simes205

4,619 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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Reliable yes - but the Turbo Diesel would be better especially in the grunt department.
Get one with the Lucas pump and you can run it on chip fat.


megamaniac

1,060 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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Engines go on forever, rear radius arm bearings and subframe mounts are the most common problems.

Chris71

21,545 posts

248 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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All ZXs eat the passive rear steering bushes I believe, with quite comedic results.

The diesels are great. I haven't had one personally, but I have friends who've owned both the naturally aspirated one and the turbo.

The n/a variant is unburstable and very economical. It is a bit of a slouch by modern standards and not the most civilised engine, but it is cheap and dependable. The turbo is really quite a respectable performer for an old school diesel and can be modified easily for extra power if that's your thing (although these days you'd probably just buy something quicker).

rb5230

11,657 posts

178 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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i have had my zx td for 7 months now and it is now on 260k miles. i thought if it lasted me a month or 2 i would have had my moneys worth out of it, but it just keeps going with just a bush knocking a little underneath. i think i get about 40-45mpg so it has saved me loads of money over having a petrol car in all that time.

even all the electric windows and sunroof work perfectly.

Wycombe83

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439 posts

183 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I test drove one the other day, do they all have really stiff throttle pedals or is it a fault somewhere?

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

188 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Simes205 said:
Reliable yes - but the Turbo Diesel would be better especially in the grunt department.
Get one with the Lucas pump and you can run it on chip fat.
Noo!! It's the Bosch pump that can handle the chip fat.

Kitchski

6,525 posts

237 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Simes205 said:
Reliable yes - but the Turbo Diesel would be better especially in the grunt department.
Get one with the Lucas pump and you can run it on chip fat.
Other way around isn't it? Bosch pumps for SVO, Lucas ones for eventual death!


Kitchski

6,525 posts

237 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Good motors. Not particularly likeable as the build, fell and finish are all shocks. But if you get a normal model, the ride is brilliant, they flow round corners without fuss and the 1.9D is epically reliable.

Personally I'd get a 1.9D, a later one like an SX. You get Volcane bumpers, and bit of kit inside and later 90's paint jobs, rather than early faded reds with black bumpers!
Volcanes are nice cars, but of every XUD I've ever owned (I've owned most variations) the TD's have always been not quite as good on the fuel economy. To be honest, they've usually got a bit too much lag for my liking too, although it's only Xantia's I've owned that are TD's and they're a fair bit more lardy than the ZX. The BX TD's were the best TD to drive IMO, as they used the 1.8 unit, which was always better on fuel and less laggy. I sort-of own a 1989 BX 1.9D, which has rolled over to 205k on the original clutch...best car I've ever owned. 45mpg everytime (even when towing!) and it's never failed to start, apart from when we tried to start it up for the first time having left it 2.5 years. Took two attempts then, cos we had to re-bleed the fuel system. BX is the one I've look at, suspension is far more reliable than it's believe to be, and they don't suffer the bush problems of the ZX. They do eat the rear arm bearings though, but not quite as frequently. Best of all theres a highly supportive owners network, with free parts being banded around to help people out.

But back on topic and off my BX tangent, the way I see it with ZX diesels is none of them are fast, you're only buying it as a cheap runabout, so buy the cheapest/most reliable one.


Wycombe83

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439 posts

183 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Wycombe83 said:
Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.
26 miles and you think you need a diesel? Madness man!

interloper

2,747 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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I rather like my ZX TD, so far its done 11.5k since August last year (it was on 148k at the time!). The car rides well and handles okay (probably could do with a spruce up really). Reliability wise, mine has needed a new starter (£65 fitted it myself) and a small wiring repair were it decided to keep blowing side light fuses.

It pays to check for rust, small holes can be patched but check around the front suspension turrets and inner wings, they can be rusty as anything.


Wycombe83

Original Poster:

439 posts

183 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.
26 miles and you think you need a diesel? Madness man!
Maybe mad but as long it's reliable for the next year or so that's fine by me & also considering petrol & diesel are about the same price so a diesel would be more per tankful.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

188 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Wycombe83 said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.
26 miles and you think you need a diesel? Madness man!
Maybe mad but as long it's reliable for the next year or so that's fine by me & also considering petrol & diesel are about the same price so a diesel would be more per tankful.
Well obviously. What I'm saying is suck it up and get a proper car.

Kitchski

6,525 posts

237 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.
26 miles and you think you need a diesel? Madness man!
Maybe mad but as long it's reliable for the next year or so that's fine by me & also considering petrol & diesel are about the same price so a diesel would be more per tankful.
Well obviously. What I'm saying is suck it up and get a proper car.
He might have a proper car in the garage!

Wycombe83

Original Poster:

439 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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What's your definition of a proper car then? i only need something that can get me to work & back with reliability, max mpg & not to mention some boot space too.

To answer another question I'm selling my Golf GTI for the MPG reason.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

188 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Kitchski said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Wycombe83 said:
Will be using it for a 26 mile round commute to work & back so reliability is the key as well as fuel consumption. Just looked at a ZX the other day & am just going to make an offer on it on ebay.
26 miles and you think you need a diesel? Madness man!
Maybe mad but as long it's reliable for the next year or so that's fine by me & also considering petrol & diesel are about the same price so a diesel would be more per tankful.
Well obviously. What I'm saying is suck it up and get a proper car.
He might have a proper car in the garage!
Apparently a Golf GTI doesn't get good enough economy for a 26 mile commute. My commute is almost twice as long, and I decided a diesel wasn't in fact necessary, and have gone back to a proper petrol car.

Kitchski

6,525 posts

237 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Ah well i wouldn't call a golf a proper car either! but you could do much worse than a zx as a smoker. I do 25 miles a day and would notice a financial advantage with a diesel to be honest.

Wiz

2,474 posts

220 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Zx diesels are great, i keep ending up with them as in-between cars sometimes run them for a few years.

XUD engines will run round the clock no problem.

n/a 65 mpg, Td 45/50mpg

Very cheap to buy and maintain Td same performance as 306 (quick by deisel standards) and half the price.

Estate versions have a very good load area and towing with them isn't a problem.

Just count how many 10/15 year old Zx's you see out and about then consider Ford/Vauxhall sold a hell of a lot more escorts/astras of that age and most are no more.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

188 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Kitchski said:
Ah well i wouldn't call a golf a proper car either! but you could do much worse than a zx as a smoker. I do 25 miles a day and would notice a financial advantage with a diesel to be honest.
Well yes, there is a slight financial advantage, but then you could cycle that far fairly easily.