My Citroen Zx 16v
Discussion
Hi Guys. I thought i'd post some photos of my 16v somewhere it will liked!
Current Spec.
Nissen Radiator.
57i With alloy heat shield.
Polished and flattened spindled TB.
Some silicone hoses.
A Pair of 10" subs and Component Speakers all round.
It has the rare leather interior.
Bosal Exhaust system.
The Engine is the same as the one in the 306 S16. These cars are getting quite rare now.
Current Spec.
Nissen Radiator.
57i With alloy heat shield.
Polished and flattened spindled TB.
Some silicone hoses.
A Pair of 10" subs and Component Speakers all round.
It has the rare leather interior.
Bosal Exhaust system.
The Engine is the same as the one in the 306 S16. These cars are getting quite rare now.
Looks well looked after.
ZX's look quite sleek compared to modern hatchbacks and that 16v power/weight is still very good by modern standards
I had a 1.9 Volcane many years ago which wafted along nicely. That engine was quite harsh at higher revs though, so the 16v is no doubt much sweeter.
What are the wheels/tyres? The Volcane as above was 195/60*14 and my current everyday steed is a TD on either 175/65*14's or 195/50*15 depending on my mood.
ZX's look quite sleek compared to modern hatchbacks and that 16v power/weight is still very good by modern standards
I had a 1.9 Volcane many years ago which wafted along nicely. That engine was quite harsh at higher revs though, so the 16v is no doubt much sweeter.
What are the wheels/tyres? The Volcane as above was 195/60*14 and my current everyday steed is a TD on either 175/65*14's or 195/50*15 depending on my mood.
It's rolling on 195-45-15 Toyo T1-R's at the moment.
It is harsh high up in the rev range it's XU engine thing but it flys along.
I have had alot of mechanical issues with it but i'm almost over all of those now! It's lovely to drive out handles most things.
500 of these were sold in the uk so i'm assuming there are around 100 left on the road. Does anyone know how to find out from dvla?
It is harsh high up in the rev range it's XU engine thing but it flys along.
I have had alot of mechanical issues with it but i'm almost over all of those now! It's lovely to drive out handles most things.
500 of these were sold in the uk so i'm assuming there are around 100 left on the road. Does anyone know how to find out from dvla?
Thank you very much.
The Zx 16v is a very unrated and rare car. I've never ever seen another one in the flesh! It's essentially an S16 but the interior imo is a dash nicer and it is a tiny bit lighter.
This one isn't really in that good condition those pictures do it justice! It's going in for a full blowover , wheel refurb and getting a phase 2 bonnet when i have the money. Then it will be looking tidy.
This is the phase 2 bonnet
The Zx 16v is a very unrated and rare car. I've never ever seen another one in the flesh! It's essentially an S16 but the interior imo is a dash nicer and it is a tiny bit lighter.
This one isn't really in that good condition those pictures do it justice! It's going in for a full blowover , wheel refurb and getting a phase 2 bonnet when i have the money. Then it will be looking tidy.
This is the phase 2 bonnet
A Xsara Vts lump would be the worst choice of engine swap! Considering the work involved and the power gain. It should be running about 160bhp when all my breathing mods are done anyway. After that i'm saving up for a VTS/GTI6 head and keeping the same block(S16 block better for tuning) and going for ITB's or bike carbs. Thats all long term though.
m0gsi said:
A Xsara Vts lump would be the worst choice of engine swap! Considering the work involved and the power gain. It should be running about 160bhp when all my breathing mods are done anyway. After that i'm saving up for a VTS/GTI6 head and keeping the same block(S16 block better for tuning) and going for ITB's or bike carbs. Thats all long term though.
What? The Xsara VTS lump is way better! The variable intake manifold on the ZX is way too restrictive. With a cat, the ZX will be running 150bhp if you're lucky, and Xsara VTS' put out as near as makes no difference 170bhp on the rollers in a good tune. The bottom end is nigh on the same, so if you use a Xsara VTS head/intake you've practically got a VTS lump!You'll tell me the ZX's lump is better than the original 1.9 16v Mi16 motor next
Kitchski said:
m0gsi said:
A Xsara Vts lump would be the worst choice of engine swap! Considering the work involved and the power gain. It should be running about 160bhp when all my breathing mods are done anyway. After that i'm saving up for a VTS/GTI6 head and keeping the same block(S16 block better for tuning) and going for ITB's or bike carbs. Thats all long term though.
What? The Xsara VTS lump is way better! The variable intake manifold on the ZX is way too restrictive. With a cat, the ZX will be running 150bhp if you're lucky, and Xsara VTS' put out as near as makes no difference 170bhp on the rollers in a good tune. The bottom end is nigh on the same, so if you use a Xsara VTS head/intake you've practically got a VTS lump!You'll tell me the ZX's lump is better than the original 1.9 16v Mi16 motor next
"The video below is of a 306 s16 with a Longlife exhaust system and K&N filter along with good quality engine oil, spark plugs and super unleaded fuel achieving a power figure of 170.5bhp."
Anyway i'm having big reliability issues so the engine is being lifted next week. I cannot afford a remap or carbs at the moment so i'm going source a cheap GTI6/VTS head , rebuild it and put it back on s16 sensors and inlet if this is possible then saving up for carbs or ITBs.
Do you guys think a 6 speed gearbox is worth it at the same time?
6 speed box is worth it for the fun of it, and I've been told that 6th gear does improve the economy on the motorways.
But I've also been told contrary to the book figures, the 5 speed box in the Xsara actually makes a faster car, as 6 gears are slightly overkill and more time is lost during each shift as the ratios are shorter.
But.....I've also been told that's b
ks as the 6 speed box is essentially a 5 speeder almost with an overdrive. So I don't know what to believe!
Anyway, I was also once in your merry club:
But long term I stuck to it's older brother:
Just bought an old Autocar with a ZX 16v test against the Mk3 Golf GTi and the Civic VTi...I'll try and scan it in or something.
But I've also been told contrary to the book figures, the 5 speed box in the Xsara actually makes a faster car, as 6 gears are slightly overkill and more time is lost during each shift as the ratios are shorter.
But.....I've also been told that's b
ks as the 6 speed box is essentially a 5 speeder almost with an overdrive. So I don't know what to believe!Anyway, I was also once in your merry club:
But long term I stuck to it's older brother:
Just bought an old Autocar with a ZX 16v test against the Mk3 Golf GTi and the Civic VTi...I'll try and scan it in or something.
m0gsi said:
Kitchski said:
m0gsi said:
A Xsara Vts lump would be the worst choice of engine swap! Considering the work involved and the power gain. It should be running about 160bhp when all my breathing mods are done anyway. After that i'm saving up for a VTS/GTI6 head and keeping the same block(S16 block better for tuning) and going for ITB's or bike carbs. Thats all long term though.
What? The Xsara VTS lump is way better! The variable intake manifold on the ZX is way too restrictive. With a cat, the ZX will be running 150bhp if you're lucky, and Xsara VTS' put out as near as makes no difference 170bhp on the rollers in a good tune. The bottom end is nigh on the same, so if you use a Xsara VTS head/intake you've practically got a VTS lump!You'll tell me the ZX's lump is better than the original 1.9 16v Mi16 motor next
"The video below is of a 306 s16 with a Longlife exhaust system and K&N filter along with good quality engine oil, spark plugs and super unleaded fuel achieving a power figure of 170.5bhp."
Anyway i'm having big reliability issues so the engine is being lifted next week. I cannot afford a remap or carbs at the moment so i'm going source a cheap GTI6/VTS head , rebuild it and put it back on s16 sensors and inlet if this is possible then saving up for carbs or ITBs.
Do you guys think a 6 speed gearbox is worth it at the same time?
The block design has additional cooling for the pistons and additional lubrication. I'm not an engineer so i don't know the specifics but any serious racing team will pair a xu10j4 bottom end with a gti6 top end.
250bhp is possible on the gti6 bottom end it's just not as good as the s16 bottom end.
I've just lost my job tonight so god knows what going to happen to my car
250bhp is possible on the gti6 bottom end it's just not as good as the s16 bottom end.
I've just lost my job tonight so god knows what going to happen to my car
Kitchski said:
6 speed box is worth it for the fun of it, and I've been told that 6th gear does improve the economy on the motorways.
But I've also been told contrary to the book figures, the 5 speed box in the Xsara actually makes a faster car, as 6 gears are slightly overkill and more time is lost during each shift as the ratios are shorter.
But.....I've also been told that's bks as the 6 speed box is essentially a 5 speeder almost with an overdrive. So I don't know what to believe!
Anyway, I was also once in your merry club:
But long term I stuck to it's older brother:
Just bought an old Autocar with a ZX 16v test against the Mk3 Golf GTi and the Civic VTi...I'll try and scan it in or something.
You sound like me. But I've also been told contrary to the book figures, the 5 speed box in the Xsara actually makes a faster car, as 6 gears are slightly overkill and more time is lost during each shift as the ratios are shorter.
But.....I've also been told that's b
ks as the 6 speed box is essentially a 5 speeder almost with an overdrive. So I don't know what to believe!Anyway, I was also once in your merry club:
But long term I stuck to it's older brother:
Just bought an old Autocar with a ZX 16v test against the Mk3 Golf GTi and the Civic VTi...I'll try and scan it in or something.
I had a BX 16V which had a couple of problems so I took it off the road and bought myself a ZX 16V. To be honest it was a huge let down after the BX. I wasn't too gutted when it caught fire after about 5 months of ownership.
Did the only sensible thing and got the BX back on the road and used it for a few more years happy motoring.
Ahh the BX GTI. I always remember my dear old dad taking me to the local Citroen dealer to test drive a jet black GTI. As we took it down the dual carriageway I asked him to see how fast it would go. He replied oh no son I want to break it in gently. I was slightly perplexed. Only for him to add that it was our new car. Happy day.
The 16v still looks good in it own unique way. Never got round to driving one.
The 16v still looks good in it own unique way. Never got round to driving one.
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