pug 205 - 406 sri engine conversion

[Gaz1308]

Hi all

Im planning on dropping a 2.0 litre turbo engine in my 205 out of a 406 sri and i am looking for some advice, anyone out there attempted this?

Gaz

[bales]

Yep.

Its a pretty common conversion now, what do you want to know?

[Gaz1308]

like alterations i have to make to the engine and car and can i use a 205 gearbox with it, basically doing a bit of research before buying the engine
Thanks

[sorrento205]

do yourself a favour and look up discostu's project thread in the readers cars section. Im sure he will answer any further questions you may have too.

[bales]

Gaz1308 said:

like alterations i have to make to the engine and car and can i use a 205 gearbox with it, basically doing a bit of research before buying the engine
Thanks

Yes you can use the 205 gearbox but need a mi16 flywheel.

You will need a different top engine mount depending on what year the engine is, mine uses a 306 xsi mount.

The lower engine mount (forked one) will need extending in order for the master cylinder and servo to clear the cam cover, usually 25-30mm is enough.

The exhaust downpipe flange will need cutting and rewelding at an angle to clear the bulkhead but you can use a 205 downpipe.

If you do use a 205 downpipe make sure it is the cheaper pattern type without the internal splitter.

Easiest intercooler to use is a 2wd cossie cooler (thinner than 4wd) this will fit in the grille (just) and you can use 2 90 deg bends at each end to meet the existing boost pipes and throttle body.

Wiring can be a bugger, plus you need a mod to the tacho circuit to make the tach work and a speed sensor (in top of gearbox) from a different car (can't remeber which one off the top of my head) to make the speedo read correctly.

Oh and the wiring can be a bugger.

Thats most things I think.

(Oh and did I mention the wiring can be a bugger)

This is what they go like with the boost tweaked a bit.

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/bale2/?acti...

Edited by bales on Tuesday 4th August 12:19

Edited by bales on Tuesday 4th August 12:20

[Gaz1308]

just to make sure, we are all talking about the 16v engine yea? also wil i have to change the driveshafts at all and wot box do you have in yours? can the flywheel off the engine not wrk?

[daviewonder]

No, 8v. They never made a 16v turbo in the 406.

[DiscoStu]

The flywheel off the turbo engine wont fit inside the bell housing of a 205 gearbox. And as Dave said the only turbo engine in the 406 was 8v, the 16v turbo was found in the 405 t16

Edited by DiscoStu on Sunday 9th August 10:34

[Soton Pug]

I've got most of the 406 Turbo loom and all of the engine, gear box, mounts ancilleries etc... sat in one of my garages if you need any bits, I want rid of it.

[Gaz1308]

o rite, mixed myself up looking at the non turbo sri,so in ur views wots the best way to go Mi16 or Turbo?

[TEKNOPUG]

Gaz1308 said:

o rite, mixed myself up looking at the non turbo sri,so in ur views wots the best way to go Mi16 or Turbo?

All the 406 Sri's are turbo.....

Do you want a 16v engine or a turbo engine?

There really is no "best way to go".

[bales]

Gaz1308 said:

o rite, mixed myself up looking at the non turbo sri,so in ur views wots the best way to go Mi16 or Turbo?

Mi16 Turbo

[Gaz1308]

i want a fast track day engine & yea they do a non turbo 16v sri engine for the 406 & bales if you have a spare mi16 turbo engine laying around let me no

[sorrento205]

GTi6 :-)

[C. Grimsley]

sorrento205 said:

GTi6 :-)

Agreed

This-





Is bloody great fun.

Carl

Edited by C. Grimsley on Thursday 13th August 21:02

[shalmaneser]

Jesus Carl you must warn people when you put pics like that up.

I must have seen the photos of your car 100 times but every bloody time a bit of sex wee comes out nevertheless.

One day my 205 might be half as nice as that!!!

[daviewonder]

It is a very nice 205, the attention to detail is amazing! I hope to do a gti6 conversion one day but I need to finish my 2.0 turbo one first lol

[Gaz1308]

situation has changed, any1 wiv a mi16 eng 4 sale??

[DiscoStu]

Dont bother with an mi16... gti6 it

[C. Grimsley]

shalmaneser said:

Jesus Carl you must warn people when you put pics like that up.

I must have seen the photos of your car 100 times but every bloody time a bit of sex wee comes out nevertheless.

One day my 205 might be half as nice as that!!!

lol, thanks fella, took it for mot on saturday, i have owned it nearly two years and i have covered a grand total of 45 miles.

Carl