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In a word, no. A standard clio 182 would walk all over a standard 1.9 GTI. Depends what modifications you're allowed though, although the 8v 205 engines aren't the easiest of engines to get extra power from.
A 306 GTI6/ Rallye would be a better starting point if you can budget for one.
A 306 GTI6/ Rallye would be a better starting point if you can budget for one.
205mi16 said:
im sorry but a cammed 1.6 gti beat a clio 182 round castle coombe circuit, through the corners and the straight it could not even come close to over taking my mates 1.6 gti 205
The Clio was evidently driven by a moron then.Don't get me wrong, I love 205s, but they're not fast cars. My old Mondeo's a much faster and more capable car than my 1.6 GTi, in a straight line and through the corners. But in terms of driver enjoyment there's no comparison, the 205 is infinitely more enjoyable than every other car I've driven.
bob 180 said:
are guys mad ive owned a 205 gti and now i have a 206 180 there is no way the 205 will be able to cut it against clio 182s and the like. a 205 is one of the best handling cars i have ever driven but its no way the fastest round a corner not by todays standerds anyway.
That depends entirely on the spec of the 205. My 205 would eat a 182 alive round a trackand most 'standard' Mi'd 205s would give a 182 a run for its money.
screwloose said:
bob 180 said:
are guys mad ive owned a 205 gti and now i have a 206 180 there is no way the 205 will be able to cut it against clio 182s and the like. a 205 is one of the best handling cars i have ever driven but its no way the fastest round a corner not by todays standerds anyway.
That depends entirely on the spec of the 205. My 205 would eat a 182 alive round a trackand most 'standard' Mi'd 205s would give a 182 a run for its money.
ethos said:
silly argument really.
That was my point. Whatever you do to a 205 its always going to be slower than a 182 that's been given the same amount of effort. The 205's engine (including the Mi16) is outdated, the rear suspension is hopeless, everything about it is old and is always going to take more work to get it to a given level of performance than a 182 or similar.
I love 205s to bits. I've driven plenty of exotic cars over the years but my completely standard 1.6 GTi is the most fun of the lot. But it is not a fast car by modern standards, and whatever you shoe-horn under the bonnet or do to the suspension that's always going to be the case.
Ethos, its all here mate: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
RT106 said:
ethos said:
silly argument really.
But it is not a fast car by modern standards, and whatever you shoe-horn under the bonnet or do to the suspension that's always going to be the case.The rear susp isn't rubbish either if set up right... just need to know what you're doing.
Are you nuts!!
I have to agree with Ethos. Peugeot must have done something right given the high regard held for 205s and their deserved praise for excellent handling be it straight out of the box or modified. The suspension isn't rubbish. Rubbish susp would surely equal poor handling??
By the way, Ethos are you on 205 drivers with the same username?
By the way, Ethos are you on 205 drivers with the same username?
Edited by screwloose on Saturday 9th August 14:33
screwloose said:
I have to agree with Ethos. Peugeot must have done something right given the high regard held for 205s and their deserved praise for excellent handling be it straight out of the box or modified. The suspension isn't rubbish. Rubbish susp would surely equal poor handling??
By the way, Ethos are you on 205 drivers with the same username?
.By the way, Ethos are you on 205 drivers with the same username?
Edited by screwloose on Saturday 9th August 14:33
Yep, that is me! Just finished my own Mi16 conversion (well on the girlfriends car
).Edited by ethos on Saturday 9th August 14:49
if you can spend money on making a 205 better whats to stop everyone else from making there cars better too as for the power to weight raito issue i am pretty sure a striped out 182 wouldnt weigh all that much either. i bet if you tune the nuts off a 205 or any other car theres a good chance it will go bang!
all said and done tho i would love to see the 205 mixing it with hondas and clios the old and the new would make it even more exciting to watch plus everyone loves to see the under dog
all said and done tho i would love to see the 205 mixing it with hondas and clios the old and the new would make it even more exciting to watch plus everyone loves to see the under dog
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