172 , 205 mi16 , 106 rallye

172 , 205 mi16 , 106 rallye

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davecrook1

Original Poster:

67 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd September 2007
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my car will hopefully going soon...im so torn between the above cars...i was tempted by the integra or possibly accord type r, but id be spending more than i want to really... so any advice on them...

sorrento205

2,875 posts

243 months

Sunday 23rd September 2007
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205 mi16 hehe

CPC

375 posts

210 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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16v 106 Rallye, Job Done!

WildCards

4,061 posts

224 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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What are you using it for mainly?

106 Rallye's aren't as quick as the other two, Mi's are good and cheap to build & modify if you can do the work yourself and join 205gtidrivers but they do have issues with oil starvation if your planning on alot of track days, obviously alot can be done to help this though. The 172 is the newest and most powerful straight out of the box, but also the heaviest and most expensive.

As a daily driver with a few TD's a year i'd go for the Clio, for a predominantly track based car, i'd have the Mi purely because it's cheaper to build, run and repair.

sorrento205

2,875 posts

243 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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clio 172's have problems with gearboxes,

ok 205's can be fragile too, but atleast you know spares are readily available and relatively cheap.

Baldylocks

18,495 posts

216 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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sorrento205 said:
clio 172's have problems with gearboxes,
I think thats been exaggerated tbh. I'm a member of cliosport.net and I hav'nt heard of many failures. They're not the greatest gearboxes in the world (quite notchy) but they only fail if abused.


sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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sorrento205 said:
clio 172's have problems with gearboxes,

ok 205's can be fragile too, but atleast you know spares are readily available and relatively cheap.
only thing I didn't have issues with was the gearbox of my 172

saying that all my 205s have been fragile but reliable

205 far more fun too

Simes205

4,661 posts

235 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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My brothers 172 destroyed it's cambelt after 15,000miles (£3k rebuild) and due to the car being over 5 years old Renault wanted nothing to do with it.

I'm sure this is an isolated case though.

Baldylocks

18,495 posts

216 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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Simes205 said:
My brothers 172 destroyed it's cambelt after 15,000miles (£3k rebuild) and due to the car being over 5 years old Renault wanted nothing to do with it.
Thats because you're supposed to change them every 5 years wink

15k in 5 years? Poor car was probably feeling neglected anyway frown

thepeoplespal

1,674 posts

284 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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If you are after B road and unclassified road fun a sorted S2 106 rallye is enormous fun, and the handling is such a joy. Okay I'm biased I'm into my 10 year of ownership. My 106 is currently undergoing a refettle, but they are not expensive to run, on my 3rd set of tyres in 76k and there is nothing really to go wrong on the electrics side, always a worry with the French.

pdd144c

208 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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A good 205 Mi16.

busta

4,504 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Don't under estimate a 106 rallye. The 1.3 isn't as fast as the others and won't win many traffic light grand prix but its an excellent drivers car.

However, alot of the original 1.3 engines have gone pop and been replaced with 16v engines from 106GTIs and Saxo VTS's (like mine and CPC's, who posted earlier) which makes the car an entirely different beast. Mine does 0-100 in under 16 seconds with just breathing mods so is easily in the same league as a 172 and MI16.


davecrook1

Original Poster:

67 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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well i love the 205's i used to have one and craved another after i sold it... i like the 106 rallyes too but and would go for the 16v conversion but am worried it maybe a little too small...the 172 is also a fave of mine being that newer and also like the look of the car alot!!.. so thats why im stuck..like i said i would go wwith the type r but not really wanting to spend 4.5k upwards...rather £3k downwards... it will mainly be used on b roads and for going to work and then social really..

busta

4,504 posts

240 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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106 is near as makes no difference the same size as a 205 inside. I went from 205 to 106 and didn't feel it lacked space at all. It's the shorter bonnet that makes it look small. The clio is slightly wider and taller but in real world terms doesn't offer much more room.

The worst thing about the 106 is the awkward foot pedals but it's something you soon get used to.

warren182

1,091 posts

217 months

Saturday 29th September 2007
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I'd go for a mk1 172, available with sensible miles for under 4k. Whats the point in converting a 106 rallye, just strip out a 106 gti. 172's are reliable if serviced correctly.