Saxo vts vs Clio 16v
Discussion
Hi
I currently have a corrado 16v at the moment. It's a nice car, looks stunning and it's in mint condition but it's just not the same fun to drive as my old vtr.
Within the next 2 months I am after a new car and the main two options are Saxo vts or clio 1.8 16v.
What would you have out of the two and why?
which is faster? which handles better?
IMO the clio is better looking but the vts is a lot faster!
I currently have a corrado 16v at the moment. It's a nice car, looks stunning and it's in mint condition but it's just not the same fun to drive as my old vtr.
Within the next 2 months I am after a new car and the main two options are Saxo vts or clio 1.8 16v.
What would you have out of the two and why?
which is faster? which handles better?
IMO the clio is better looking but the vts is a lot faster!
Personally i'd say the clio 16v, my housemate has one and with a few simple mods it is awesome. I have a 205 gti 1.9 and although we're close to 60, he will always pull away after that. They are both very similar for pace, the VTS shouldnt pull away from the clio.
I think they look better than the saxo's and are a rarer site as i see millions of vts's and vtr's during the week.
Also you can do as my housemate did and later drop a 2.0l williams engine in.
Get the clio, lower it and get some good brakes = much fun!
(I havent driven either but i hope my points are valid)
I think they look better than the saxo's and are a rarer site as i see millions of vts's and vtr's during the week.
Also you can do as my housemate did and later drop a 2.0l williams engine in.
Get the clio, lower it and get some good brakes = much fun!
(I havent driven either but i hope my points are valid)
Thanks for that reply. Have been tempted with a 106 but as the vts is almost iidentical I can't justify spending the extra money getting a 106.
I really do like the looks of the clio 16v and I would want a minter with low mileage (sub 50K if there is any) - I would also want williams speedlines in white on it!
What do they handle like? as I find that Saxo vt*'s handle brilliantly!!
I really do like the looks of the clio 16v and I would want a minter with low mileage (sub 50K if there is any) - I would also want williams speedlines in white on it!
What do they handle like? as I find that Saxo vt*'s handle brilliantly!!
I like both. The Clio has a more gutsy engine, but for some reason it isn't any quicker. It actually feels slightly more sluggish. The whole car is softer than the VTS too, it leans and pitches/dives more, but then it is a more comfy long distance car. The front seats are just hands down better than the Saxo's, but I'd say the VTS would be more fun overall.
I couldn't justify a 106 GTi either. The looks are an opinion, and the only thing it has over a VTS is an optional semi leather interior. The dasboard looks like it came from 1991.....well it did! The Saxo is cheaper and no different a car underneath. You get the odd stupid comments from people saying the Saxo has the bad image and is too common, when ironically the 106 GTi is more common than the Saxo VTS. The VTR is the common Saxo, but they seem to forget that bit.
Tough call though, can you afford a Williams?
I couldn't justify a 106 GTi either. The looks are an opinion, and the only thing it has over a VTS is an optional semi leather interior. The dasboard looks like it came from 1991.....well it did! The Saxo is cheaper and no different a car underneath. You get the odd stupid comments from people saying the Saxo has the bad image and is too common, when ironically the 106 GTi is more common than the Saxo VTS. The VTR is the common Saxo, but they seem to forget that bit.
Tough call though, can you afford a Williams?
Edited by Kitchski on Wednesday 23 May 17:40
On paper, for straight line speed, there's nothing to choose between these cars. You'd be splitting hairs.
Also remember, these are both old cars now especially the Clio so don't expect (from memory) 134bhp as standard for the Clio unless it's really been looked after. Performance now will depend on what sort of life the car has had.
I think the VTS would be the better purchase. My mate picked up an absolutely mint red Vts for £3300 2 months ago with 34,000 on the clock. He's now lowered it 30mm and put a nice shiny Magnex exhaust on it with decat pipe. It goes and sounds fantastic - even spits little flames when he boots it! Lol!
Also remember, these are both old cars now especially the Clio so don't expect (from memory) 134bhp as standard for the Clio unless it's really been looked after. Performance now will depend on what sort of life the car has had.
I think the VTS would be the better purchase. My mate picked up an absolutely mint red Vts for £3300 2 months ago with 34,000 on the clock. He's now lowered it 30mm and put a nice shiny Magnex exhaust on it with decat pipe. It goes and sounds fantastic - even spits little flames when he boots it! Lol!
I would choose the Clio 16v over the VTS.....The car before I bought my Clio 16v (137bhp) was a modified Saxo VTR, it had loads of engine mods, including superchip, piper cams, 4-1 manifold, etc, etc but as soon as I got the Clio 16v it just felt soo much faster, especially when you knocked it down a gear at speed, it didn't feel as quick off the blocks as the Saxo but once you gave it some revs it flys!! Plus my saxo always seemed to break down and in the 1 1/2 years I had the Clio 16v I had no problems with it.
The Clio is a rarer car and I prefered to have something different to all the usual VTR's, VTS's and GTI's. I guess this being a rarer car makes the parts more expensive and you don't see many of them being sold that often, but you can pick a really good one up for under 2k.
With a few breather mods, ECU re-map, and maybe a few things here and there it won't take much to get it to Williams level, and then it will be (on my option ) much better than a VTS.
My next car is going to be another 16v or Williams!
The Clio is a rarer car and I prefered to have something different to all the usual VTR's, VTS's and GTI's. I guess this being a rarer car makes the parts more expensive and you don't see many of them being sold that often, but you can pick a really good one up for under 2k.
With a few breather mods, ECU re-map, and maybe a few things here and there it won't take much to get it to Williams level, and then it will be (on my option ) much better than a VTS.
My next car is going to be another 16v or Williams!
number2301 said:
VTR is a hell of a lot slower than a VTS though, 20bhp straight off and that's if you believe the on the low side manufacturers figures.
I agree it's a bad comparison. The VTR is hampered by ridiculously high gearing for what is a fairly limp engine. The 106 versions of what is essentially the same car (XSI, Rallye, S16 and GTI) are far better thought out in terms of driveability.Any 16v Peugeot or Citroen will be a good drive though, no doubt the Clio isn't too bad either. Just depends what takes your fancy. There's very little in it in real terms!
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