106 Gti / VTS engine into a 306?

106 Gti / VTS engine into a 306?

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bluespanner

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3,383 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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I wonder?

I'm getting a bit bored with the VTR boys running rings aroung the old girl (1999 306, 90bhp 1.6 8v TU engine) so what im thinking is will a 120bhp Saxo VTS / 106 Gti 16v engine drop in? Is this engine a TU engine, like the 1.6 and 1.4s?

Is there a better option?

Any ideas or advice welcome

Roland

targarama

14,661 posts

290 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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Buy a 306 SXi/GTi or whatever they call them. They're rather good.

bluespanner

Original Poster:

3,383 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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I would IF i could insure one. I was rather hoping to stay with 1600cc.

eyebeebe

3,189 posts

240 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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Is a major modification like a new engine not going to be more of a no no from an insurance point of view than going for an unmolested GTI?

bluespanner

Original Poster:

3,383 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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Shhh you!

busta

4,504 posts

240 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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Just get a 306 2.0 XSi. They are dirt cheap, insurance isn't bad (less than a vts/106 gti, definitely less than your call will be if you modify it) and they don't look too special so you will take all the vtr boys by surprise.

A 306 with the vts engine would probably struggle to keep up with a vtr anyway. They are nearly 200kg heavier so 20 hp won't make much difference.

Of course you could just stop trying to race the barry boys instead. would be much cheaper!

bluespanner

Original Poster:

3,383 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
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busta said:
Just get a 306 2.0 XSi. They are dirt cheap, insurance isn't bad (less than a vts/106 gti, definitely less than your call will be if you modify it) and they don't look too special so you will take all the vtr boys by surprise.

A 306 with the vts engine would probably struggle to keep up with a vtr anyway. They are nearly 200kg heavier so 20 hp won't make much difference.

Of course you could just stop trying to race the barry boys instead. would be much cheaper!


Hmm i like it. Problem is im only 17, so insurance is the overriding factor of everything. Ill go have a look at some quotes for XSis then...
Cheers

coopers

4,542 posts

226 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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cant see how a heavily modified 306 is gonna be cheaper than a std fast 306 from the factory?

Mikey G

4,784 posts

247 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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coopers said:
cant see how a heavily modified 306 is gonna be cheaper than a std fast 306 from the factory?


The faster car is built for the extra power, you put a more powerful engine into a car with suspension and brakes designed for less could be classed as dangerous. Just putting a bigger engine in wouldnt make it heavily modified, just faster.

My brother has a 306 XSi, fantastic car and he's owned it for 3 years now with very few problems. Insurance was reasonable when he first got it as its classed as a watered down GTi.

Gompo

4,517 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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At 17 you wont get a quick car with low insurance costs unless you get very lucky with a classic or kit-car of some sort - just something you have to deal with and be patient.

For what they are, 306 XSI's are very good and insurance might not be too bad.

Fitting the 106GTi engine in a 306 will probably mean your policy would be based on a 106GTI (that's how it often works with engine transplants). Not worth the hassle.

gti-will

6 posts

214 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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With the cost for the conversion and insurance and end result not being that spectuacular because of the weight of the car it probably really isnt that worth it.

vrooom

3,763 posts

274 months

Saturday 24th March 2007
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Turbo charge it, or run supercharger.

bluespanner

Original Poster:

3,383 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th March 2007
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Just been out and bought a W plate 2.0 XSi with 68k on the clock, complete with half leather interior and GTi-6 alloys.

Mikey G

4,784 posts

247 months

Sunday 25th March 2007
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Good call

busta

4,504 posts

240 months

Sunday 25th March 2007
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bluespanner said:
Just been out and bought a W plate 2.0 XSi with 68k on the clock, complete with half leather interior and GTi-6 alloys.



Good man. I need to get my arse into gear and do the same!

Gompo

4,517 posts

265 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Good effort mate, you should enjoy it.

I am seriously thinking about getting another 306 myself (although it'll be a GTI-6 again).