Gearboxes

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TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Hi, im 17 and just past my test. I have a 1.6 gti but want to put a 1.9 init.
I have the engine but i dont no weather to look for a 1.9 gearbox for it or put my 1.6 gearbox on it.
What are you views becuase i dont want it to be to short.

Cheers

Tom

TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Sorry i forgot to say that it is a 205 GTI.

Cheers

Tom

trickywoo

12,271 posts

237 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Stick with the 1.6 unit, its better....

sorrento205

2,875 posts

243 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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1.6 or Mi16 gearbox will make it go a little bit better, but there's nowt wrong with the 1.9 box (aslong as its only used on the 1.9 engine)

Edited by sorrento205 on Friday 6th October 16:48

TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Saturday 7th October 2006
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Thanks for that.

Just another question. What do you think the top end would be on the 1.6 box?

Cheers

Tom

simes205

4,649 posts

235 months

Saturday 7th October 2006
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In reality about 118mph.

1.6 and 1.9 engines differ enough to not bother putting the 1.9 box onto a 1.6.

Keep the 1.6 a 1.6. The engine is cracking and far more revy than the 1.9.

Edited by simes205 on Saturday 7th October 17:30

TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Cheers for that.

If i wanted a longer fifth gear for motor ways, what would you change it to?

I was thinking a 1.8 diesel fifth gear or something like that?

Cheers

Tom

Mr Whippy

29,757 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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This will help.

www.205gti.com/techgearboxUK.htm

1.9 GR 5th from a 405 seems to be the motorway ratio of choice for you

Dave

Edited by Mr Whippy on Tuesday 10th October 10:09

TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Cheers for that. it does.

That bin a great help.

Have any of you tried this, do you no how long it takes to wind up?

Cheers

Tom

sorrento205

2,875 posts

243 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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im not sure what gerabox i had on my old 8v, but 5th gear was definately not matched to 1st through 4th. When giving it some, the revs just used to drop off too much going into 5th, preventing any further adrenaline rush. I hated it.

Mr Whippy

29,757 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Get an Mi16 engine bunged in, then a 6spd box from the 306 Gti.

Sorted.

Dave

TomGall

Original Poster:

19 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I would, ive had 1 offered to me but im only 17 and bein drivin bout 6 months.

I think the 1.9 will be fast enough for now.

I hope the deisel 5th isnt to slugish, have to have it changed back if it is.

Cheers

Tom

Mr Whippy

29,757 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I'd just stick a 1.9 final drive into the 1.6 box by the looks of things.

A 1.6 box with a 1.9 engine is just gonna be silly

Dave

Rob_the_Sparky

1,000 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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sorrento205 said:
im not sure what gerabox i had on my old 8v, but 5th gear was definately not matched to 1st through 4th. When giving it some, the revs just used to drop off too much going into 5th, preventing any further adrenaline rush. I hated it.


You were still full on at the end of 4th?! Man you can bust most speed limits in 2nd, on the track I can understand but looking for more acceleration at the end of 4th I would think you have the wrong car. It is all about B road blasting, not top speed and a corner will always be in the way before you reach the end of 4th (and generally the end of 3rd).

Rob

badders

821 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Rob_the_Sparky said:
sorrento205 said:
im not sure what gerabox i had on my old 8v, but 5th gear was definately not matched to 1st through 4th. When giving it some, the revs just used to drop off too much going into 5th, preventing any further adrenaline rush. I hated it.


You were still full on at the end of 4th?! Man you can bust most speed limits in 2nd, on the track I can understand but looking for more acceleration at the end of 4th I would think you have the wrong car. It is all about B road blasting, not top speed and a corner will always be in the way before you reach the end of 4th (and generally the end of 3rd).

Rob

Well top of 4th at 6k is only 100mph, so not out of the realms of dual carriageway/motorway work. boxedin

sorrento205

2,875 posts

243 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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have to agree, its not a decent blat if you dont get into top gear.

and though i'll never be able to check now, i'm not sure it did get 100 in 4th. it only really did 110 comfortably anyway, 120 with a big run up

simes205

4,649 posts

235 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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badders said:
Rob_the_Sparky said:
sorrento205 said:
im not sure what gerabox i had on my old 8v, but 5th gear was definately not matched to 1st through 4th. When giving it some, the revs just used to drop off too much going into 5th, preventing any further adrenaline rush. I hated it.


You were still full on at the end of 4th?! Man you can bust most speed limits in 2nd, on the track I can understand but looking for more acceleration at the end of 4th I would think you have the wrong car. It is all about B road blasting, not top speed and a corner will always be in the way before you reach the end of 4th (and generally the end of 3rd).

Rob

Well top of 4th at 6k is only 100mph, so not out of the realms of dual carriageway/motorway work. boxedin



Top of 4th in the Mi is a little higher

Rob_the_Sparky

1,000 posts

245 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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Personally a decent blat in a 205 occurs on the twisties hence not topping out in 4th...

the_stoat

509 posts

218 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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Sorry to be an old fart, but I would not recommend driving a 205 flat out having just passed your test. Unless the suspension is in tip tip condition things can get interesting above 100MPH.

As has already been said 205 is about the twisties not high speed.

Rob_the_Sparky

1,000 posts

245 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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The more interesting issue is the lift off over steer, great fun but will put the inexperienced through a hedge. Personally I wouldn't recommend a 205GTi to a new driver for this reason but each to his own. A 309 handles better, is cheaper to buy and insure but is slightly slower (I own and run both).