ZOE AND CLIO

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A500leroy

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5,592 posts

125 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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What do we think Renault will end up doing with these models when everything is EV?
Will they kill one or both names off or move the Clio more up market and replace lower end Meganes with it?

MustangGT

12,287 posts

287 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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A500leroy said:
What do we think Renault will end up doing with these models when everything is EV?
Will they kill one or both names off or move the Clio more up market and replace lower end Meganes with it?
You do realise the Zoe is an EV don't you? Also, why do we care? They are a mass-produced vehicle for the masses, so, not really anything anybody would miss.

A500leroy

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5,592 posts

125 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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MustangGT said:
A500leroy said:
What do we think Renault will end up doing with these models when everything is EV?
Will they kill one or both names off or move the Clio more up market and replace lower end Meganes with it?
You do realise the Zoe is an EV don't you? Also, why do we care? They are a mass-produced vehicle for the masses, so, not really anything anybody would miss.
Exactly, As they have the ZOE as an ev already will they ever make an EV CLIO?

SuperPav

1,125 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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I think the OP's question is more along the lines of, currently the EV and the ICE car sit in the same bodystyle segment, with different model names.

At some point in the next decade with ICE being phased out, they'll end up with potentially two models (with brand equity in both) sat in the same space.


See also:
VW Golf and ID3 (what's going to happen to the Golf nameplate? It's got loads of equity in it, so it's a brave move to kill it off!)
I-PACE and F-PACE
EQS and S-Class


Having had this challenge within an OEM I can tell you there's no easy or obvious answer! smile The problem is that it's the legacy car that in most cases has the most brand value/loyalty, but when the transition starts to take hold, it begins to erode quite quickly. It's also always difficult to reposition a product after only one/two cycles without alienating the customer base.

PH User

22,154 posts

115 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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A500leroy said:
MustangGT said:
A500leroy said:
What do we think Renault will end up doing with these models when everything is EV?
Will they kill one or both names off or move the Clio more up market and replace lower end Meganes with it?
You do realise the Zoe is an EV don't you? Also, why do we care? They are a mass-produced vehicle for the masses, so, not really anything anybody would miss.
Exactly, As they have the ZOE as an ev already will they ever make an EV CLIO?
What do you think?

A500leroy

Original Poster:

5,592 posts

125 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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PH User said:
A500leroy said:
MustangGT said:
A500leroy said:
What do we think Renault will end up doing with these models when everything is EV?
Will they kill one or both names off or move the Clio more up market and replace lower end Meganes with it?
You do realise the Zoe is an EV don't you? Also, why do we care? They are a mass-produced vehicle for the masses, so, not really anything anybody would miss.
Exactly, As they have the ZOE as an ev already will they ever make an EV CLIO?
What do you think?
ZOE would replace the defunct Twingo, And the CLIO will be pushed up market, maybe the first EV ALPINE?

sherman

13,835 posts

222 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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The god awful modern names id3 etc will be dropped for the familiar names Golf etc
There might be a weird cross over generation of names.

Dave Hedgehog

14,686 posts

211 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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sherman said:
The god awful modern names id3 etc will be dropped for the familiar names Golf etc
There might be a weird cross over generation of names.
numbers and letters are easy to copyright globabaly so you get a consistent branding in all markets

its less likely that it will mean something rude in some part of the world

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/49rx9gg/

sherman

13,835 posts

222 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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Dave Hedgehog said:
sherman said:
The god awful modern names id3 etc will be dropped for the familiar names Golf etc
There might be a weird cross over generation of names.
numbers and letters are easy to copyright globabaly so you get a consistent branding in all markets

its less likely that it will mean something rude in some part of the world

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/49rx9gg/
I think they have already checked that the Golf, clio etc are ok namewise for world wide roll out wink

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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When all cars are EVs then there is no advantage in using any special naming.

A clio is a clio, not because it uses a piston engine, but because it is Renaults small car.