Berlingo v Partner van for MPG

[Vantroublempg]

I understand these are basically the same van but im struggling to find any realistic figures anywhere for these models as my google searches just return 1.6 engines.
So hopefully someone on here can advise. I had a transit connect great little work van but awful MPG id be lucky to get 330 miles out of £50. Would a 2007 plate Berlingo 1.9D lx or 2007 plate partner 1.9D be any better?

As searching online some have said as low as 25mpg which seems awful. Any true advice please for these models.

If they are just as bad ill opt for the Kangoo 1.5 as that seems to get 55+. Its an annoying decision as i do around 500 miles a week with this new contract so need every bit of the mpg as im just starting my decorating sub contracted company. So every bit is better in my pocket.

Edited by Vantroublempg on Wednesday 12th June 17:00

Edited by Vantroublempg on Wednesday 12th June 17:01

Edited by Vantroublempg on Wednesday 12th June 17:02

[twing]

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[Earthdweller]

They are the same vehicle with different badges on them

Mpg is very subjective depending on many variables

No one can say “you will get 53mpg”

[Ilovejapcrap]

you'll get 53 MPG

[Vantroublempg]

so 53 cheers haha

Yeah i understand just wanting a rough idea for all motorway driving as i work just outside london 500m a week averaging 450 of that on m1 but my connect still didnt get great mileage. Are these alternatives better. I realise nobody can give exact figures but surely someone in this wonderful world has gone from a connect to one of these in their time.

Edited by Vantroublempg on Wednesday 12th June 17:26

[Ilovejapcrap]

you know i was being daft due to comment above me yes ?
Ive no idea what you'll get sorry

[Vantroublempg]

Lovejap yes mate i put a laughing emoji that didnt show, i realise you was responding to the other comment above.

Cheers JaguarSteve yeah i was hoping for 50s average for motorway driving as wouldnt be carrying much load. . Bar my frame haha.

[Vantroublempg]

Is there any other differences bar the badge does anybody know? As the 2 ive seen 1 is £200 cheaper for for the partner both have same mileage. Im hoping till do me for 4-5 months then get a newer model once this contracts completed.

[Jaguar steve]

Had both Kangoo 1.8 and Berlingo 1.9 non turbo diesel vans for years

1.9 non turbo diesel Berlingo real world over about 50k miles driven reasonably sensibly was high 40s to low 50s MPG. Similar use in Kangoo usually managed 55+ MPG

Berlingo 1.9 Gearing is very low at 20MPH/1000 RPM. No idea what Kangoo gearing was. At motorway speeds both vans consumption will drop considerably.

Berlingo is much, much easier to work on than Kangoo but Kangoo IMO is a nicer drive

[Vantroublempg]

Jaguar steve said:

Had both Kangoo 1.8 and Berlingo 1.9 non turbo diesel vans for years

1.9 non turbo diesel Berlingo real world over about 50k miles driven reasonably sensibly was high 40s to low 50s MPG. Similar use in Kangoo usually managed 55+ MPG

Berlingo 1.9 Gearing is very low at 20MPH/1000 RPM. No idea what Kangoo gearing was. At motorway speeds both vans consumption will drop considerably.

Berlingo is much, much easier to work on than Kangoo but Kangoo IMO is a nicer drive

Yeah i went to test drive a 1.5 kangoo the other day and it was really nice to drive. Thats the one benefit to my old connect, no lower back trouble or any worries in 50k miles, it was like a tank but felt comfortable to drive. I test drove a combo today and it seemed lumpy and lower down so not as comfortable.

Its a bit of a gamble but the berlingo is £400 cheaper than the kangoo but... the kangoo does 55mpg compared to what im guessing is nearer 45 for berlingo so im going to have to weigh up which will be better long term. At 500miles a week i may save £60-£80 a month with the kangoo.

[Jaguar steve]

Vantroublempg said:

Jaguar steve said:

Had both Kangoo 1.8 and Berlingo 1.9 non turbo diesel vans for years

1.9 non turbo diesel Berlingo real world over about 50k miles driven reasonably sensibly was high 40s to low 50s MPG. Similar use in Kangoo usually managed 55+ MPG

Berlingo 1.9 Gearing is very low at 20MPH/1000 RPM. No idea what Kangoo gearing was. At motorway speeds both vans consumption will drop considerably.

Berlingo is much, much easier to work on than Kangoo but Kangoo IMO is a nicer drive

Yeah i went to test drive a 1.5 kangoo the other day and it was really nice to drive. Thats the one benefit to my old connect, no lower back trouble or any worries in 50k miles, it was like a tank but felt comfortable to drive. I test drove a combo today and it seemed lumpy and lower down so not as comfortable.

Its a bit of a gamble but the berlingo is £400 cheaper than the kangoo but... the kangoo does 55mpg compared to what im guessing is nearer 45 for berlingo so im going to have to weigh up which will be better long term. At 500miles a week i may save £60-£80 a month with the kangoo.

Forget fuel consumption - you're buying knackered old vans. Nobody ever sells a van because they fancy one in a different colour or prefer the seat trim in a newer one - chances are it'll have been worked to death and only be up for sale because it's shagged or there's big bills looming and the punter wants to get shot so it bites somebody else in the arse and not him.

I'd not worry too much about a few mpg difference between one or the other and just buy the best example you can get for your cash. Something with a long MOT and half decent tyres and a strong clutch is a good starting point. It's a bonus if you can use it for a few months and then sell it on.

[MXRod]

If it is a 1.6 hdi ,which is the van I have just disposed of .
Worst case 35mpg around town ,at least 45mpg motorway doing battle with sprinters etc
And mine had done 147k miles .the engine was as strong as the date I bought it new 2011

Edited by MXRod on Wednesday 12th June 20:42

[FlatTwin]

Lots of problems with the 1.6 HDI 90
It's suffers oil leaks around injectors, the oil pass thought turbo and destroy everything.

The leak is audible when the engine is idling. It goes "pufpufpufpuf".
The only way to preserve the engine is to reduces by 3 the intervalls between oil changes. Beaucause when it leaks oil get very dirty.

But the problem has to be fixed quicly beacuse oil "caramelizes" aroud the injector and it weld the thing...

Here are some pictures : http://peritus.eklablog.fr/fuite-au-niveau-d-un-in...

If you buy a Partner or berlingo, get a 1.9D or 2.0 HDI (which is the best), not a 1.6 HDI.

New versions of the 1.6 are relable but more expensive. The bad models starts from 2005 to 2010 approximativelly.

[Vanordinaire]

I'd consider a Vauxhall Combo ( not the post 2012 Fiat Doblo clone but the 2001 to 2011 Corsa based one).
They're funny looking things but the most reliable/toughest of that size and have the added advantage that they're car-derived so higher speed limits .

Edited by Vanordinaire on Saturday 15th June 22:59