Clio 182 - Talk To Me Please.
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Be sure to buy one that has recently had belts & dephaser done as it's not a cheap job.
OEM exhausts rot for fun, gearbox dogbone mounts fail, rear shocks fail but not a biggy, crank sensor & maybe a couple of other minor bits to watch for.
Biggest issue will be finding one that Bazza hasn't got his hands on & completely ruined, they are generally pretty tough & reliable, had my 172 for nearly 8yrs now.
OEM exhausts rot for fun, gearbox dogbone mounts fail, rear shocks fail but not a biggy, crank sensor & maybe a couple of other minor bits to watch for.
Biggest issue will be finding one that Bazza hasn't got his hands on & completely ruined, they are generally pretty tough & reliable, had my 172 for nearly 8yrs now.
Cambelt service is about £400-500, and must be done regularly.
Dogbone gearbox mounts perish and cause a loud knock/bang when changing gear. Easily sorted.
Engines are good and strong, and offer 30-35 to the gallon even when driving them hard.
Interiors are made of cheese.
Great handling cars, really good fun.
ETA: Join cliosport.net for loads of information.
Loads of spares available and pretty cheap.
Dogbone gearbox mounts perish and cause a loud knock/bang when changing gear. Easily sorted.
Engines are good and strong, and offer 30-35 to the gallon even when driving them hard.
Interiors are made of cheese.
Great handling cars, really good fun.
ETA: Join cliosport.net for loads of information.
Loads of spares available and pretty cheap.
Edited by cbmotorsport on Tuesday 13th February 15:30
The black is called "Black Gold" and is metallic but with Red/Gold/Silver flakes in it
Looks great when clean but a bit of an arse to colour match
I'd recommend swapping out the OEM rear exhaust mounts for items from "Prima Racing". More expensive but the standard items need replacing every six months!
Looks great when clean but a bit of an arse to colour match
I'd recommend swapping out the OEM rear exhaust mounts for items from "Prima Racing". More expensive but the standard items need replacing every six months!
Got mine 4 years ago, on only 56k miles, 2 mature owners, full service history inc cambelt, dephaser and water pump done.
Been hilariously unreliable, costing an average of £600 a year in repairs.
The issues and problems have been far too varied for me to list (or even remember all of them!)
Been hilariously unreliable, costing an average of £600 a year in repairs.
The issues and problems have been far too varied for me to list (or even remember all of them!)
As a contrast, I have my 172 (basically the same car as a 182 bar the exhaust back box) almost 2 years now and it hasn't given me much grief. The crank sensor went, but 20 quid and 2 hours later it was sorted. Apart from that, it's been great.
As others said, belts, dogbone mount, backbox mount, crank sensor and coils are the things to look out for. The interiors rattle, but who gives a damn.
Just go for it an get one, they handle brilliantly, the engines are strong, the steering is sublime, totally worth it!
As others said, belts, dogbone mount, backbox mount, crank sensor and coils are the things to look out for. The interiors rattle, but who gives a damn.
Just go for it an get one, they handle brilliantly, the engines are strong, the steering is sublime, totally worth it!
Hi
I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:48
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:53
I have done around 50k in 3 years in mine. It's been great, such a fun car. No issues other than the standard consumables. People will tell you to try and get one with the cup packs... mine hasn't got them and I have never felt short changed. Just make sure you get the one that's in best condition for your budget.
don logan said:
Hi
I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
I have a 172 cup myself and feel the same. There will be others that come and go over the next few years but the clio is staying. I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:48
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:53
DoubleTime said:
don logan said:
Hi
I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
I have a 172 cup myself and feel the same. There will be others that come and go over the next few years but the clio is staying. I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:48
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:53
Can highly recommend a 172 Cup,
Owned one for 4 years, if your handy with the spanners, parts are cheap and they are cheap to run. If you need a garage to do any work then a bad one will cost you.
Early Cups had no aircon, this makes belt changes about £150 cheaper and they have standard Clio plastic manual heater controls so avoid the digital auto climate controls which can go wrong. Being the lightest of the 1*2 pack they are the fastest and most economical. They may also hold their value more and maybe even appreciate if you buy standard and low miles. There is also no ABS to go wrong.
Downsides are,
No ABS - this really bothered me for a few months as the car seems to lock one wheel under very heavy braking in the wet. I've not driven a car without ABS for 15 odd years so it took some re adjustment.
Interior has chav blue detailing on dash, wheel and gear knob. It's horrible but I've kept mine original and just ignore.
A lot have been tracked, be aware.
Standard 172/182 Non cup are also very good cars. 172 Cups are still my favourite and I think are a smart buy right now. Have read a lot of comments saying they are too raw or hardcore for daily duties, I don't think that's the case, it's more like driving a 1.2 with a bit more noise due to lack of spec. A Westfield is a raw daily, not a 15yo Clio. Good luck!
Owned one for 4 years, if your handy with the spanners, parts are cheap and they are cheap to run. If you need a garage to do any work then a bad one will cost you.
Early Cups had no aircon, this makes belt changes about £150 cheaper and they have standard Clio plastic manual heater controls so avoid the digital auto climate controls which can go wrong. Being the lightest of the 1*2 pack they are the fastest and most economical. They may also hold their value more and maybe even appreciate if you buy standard and low miles. There is also no ABS to go wrong.
Downsides are,
No ABS - this really bothered me for a few months as the car seems to lock one wheel under very heavy braking in the wet. I've not driven a car without ABS for 15 odd years so it took some re adjustment.
Interior has chav blue detailing on dash, wheel and gear knob. It's horrible but I've kept mine original and just ignore.
A lot have been tracked, be aware.
Standard 172/182 Non cup are also very good cars. 172 Cups are still my favourite and I think are a smart buy right now. Have read a lot of comments saying they are too raw or hardcore for daily duties, I don't think that's the case, it's more like driving a 1.2 with a bit more noise due to lack of spec. A Westfield is a raw daily, not a 15yo Clio. Good luck!
Edited by exgtt on Sunday 18th February 18:38
Edited by exgtt on Sunday 18th February 18:46
Hi all, thanks for the replies! Not been on here for a while, hence the late reply!
Does anyone know what the “ Extreme Pack” is ? I have asked Renault for confirmation that a particulor car has both Cup Packs ( bigger rear spoiler, anthracite alloys and the lowered ride hight ) but all they have on their system is an “ Extreme Pack” !
Does anyone know what the “ Extreme Pack” is ? I have asked Renault for confirmation that a particulor car has both Cup Packs ( bigger rear spoiler, anthracite alloys and the lowered ride hight ) but all they have on their system is an “ Extreme Pack” !
All the cup stuff is retrofit anyway, so it may not have the cup packs (cup packs are different to a cup).
Look for the larger spoiler, and french flag on the rear springs (cup's are denoted with the flag), as well as the lip on the front bumper. Take a look here too: https://www.cliosport.net/content/guides/Renault%2...
Look for the larger spoiler, and french flag on the rear springs (cup's are denoted with the flag), as well as the lip on the front bumper. Take a look here too: https://www.cliosport.net/content/guides/Renault%2...
neutral 3 said:
Hi all, thanks for the replies! Not been on here for a while, hence the late reply!
Does anyone know what the “ Extreme Pack” is ? I have asked Renault for confirmation that a particulor car has both Cup Packs ( bigger rear spoiler, anthracite alloys and the lowered ride hight ) but all they have on their system is an “ Extreme Pack” !
It's going back a bit but IIRC Extreme Pack was the Renault France description of one of the Cup Packs.Does anyone know what the “ Extreme Pack” is ? I have asked Renault for confirmation that a particulor car has both Cup Packs ( bigger rear spoiler, anthracite alloys and the lowered ride hight ) but all they have on their system is an “ Extreme Pack” !
neutral 3 said:
It seems that a fair few cars have lost their front spoiler lip to kerbs etc. And that other cars have had replacement coil springs which may not be the original lowered springs.
Also, is the wider track due to the anthracite alloys ?
Or different hubs ?
The Eibach lowering springs are a good upgrade on the std Cup springs anyway. The Skoda Fabia spoiler goes straight on and is a fraction of the cost. If you can find a car that had the Cup appearance pack you'll get the nice looking roof spoiler. Not as large as on a Trophy, but deffo better looking than a 182 with no packs. Also, is the wider track due to the anthracite alloys ?
Or different hubs ?
The 182 Cup Anthracite alloys are the same as the silver ones (fitted to non-Cup Pack cars) just a different colour. I cannot recall if the 182 Trophy Speedlines have a slightly different offset - I don't think so.
don logan said:
Hi
I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
Great summary. My best 182 Cup & Trophys also had all the above, a decent induction system (ITG?), maybe a Miltek cat back and a mild remap - then I'm not sure you can beat the experience of a blast out and about in one. I've had one for 10yrs, from 38k miles to 80k
As previously mentioned, belts, tensioners, dephaser stuff is important and quite expensive!
Exhaust mounts, I imagine all steer wheels must have melted by now, the heater temperature controls have a habit of not responding but can be fixed quit easily with cable ties, also needed a heater matrix, I think I had a crankshaft pulley and have had the crankshaft position sensor too! Oxygen sensor!
Bonnet catch can be an issue
Paint is thin (mine is black too)
So there have been a few things but I cannot tell you how much I love it!
I'll put it into perspective for you!
I sold my GTR because I couldn't think of one PROPERLY MEMORABLE drive (including and possibly worst of all in the Alps) while I can't count the amount I've had in the 182 Cup or just short moments of madness!!
I also have an R26.R and lots of times I've questioned which I truly prefer!
I have standard dampers with Eibach springs, brembo high carbon front discs with Carbon Lorraine pads and standard rear discs with DS2500 pads and braided hoses all round!
I've never wished it had more power.
I LOVE it, it's a bit rough cosmetically but I worry about ever having to replace it!
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:48
Edited by don logan on Thursday 15th February 21:53
The broken ECU steel bracket used to annoy me, but those security bolts put me of bothering.
Thanks once again for the replies! And very interesting re the “ Extreme Pack” , which i did suspect is a Cup Pack. The car in question has the rear spoiler, no front lip spoiler ( guessing it was curbed ) the anthracite alloys, but the ride hight isnt low and im not sure re the wider track.
Aparently the hubs are 60mm on the wide tracked cars.
Aparently the hubs are 60mm on the wide tracked cars.
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