407 coupe 3.0 hdi - anybody have one ?
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craigjm said:
cologne2792 said:
That's a shame. I have an older 406 coupe by Pininfarina and that really does drive and feel very nice indeed.
Chalk and cheese. I agree with you. Check out the differences in the overhangs The auto box is pushed to its limits by the torque output of the 3.0 V6 diesel. The one I bought (2.7 diesel) was already having 'box issues.
As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'
As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'
Barchettaman said:
The auto box is pushed to its limits by the torque output of the 3.0 V6 diesel. The one I bought (2.7 diesel) was already having 'box issues.
As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'
I was afraid of that and it probably explains why the torque isn't much higher than the 2.7. About another 35 bhp though which is impressive.As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'
I asked on our forum about the rarity, as they almost never seem to come up for sale, and it's believed that there are only 62 of them registered in the UK !
Had a 2.7 a good few years ago. Was the consummate mile muncher and in GT spec was generously kitted and had an awesome jbl stereo. Gear box st itself a year into ownership and ended up selling it for what it was bought for to someone who broke it and exported the engine to an engineering school in Botswana.
Mike335i said:
I actually quite like these, a a manual petrol v6 could be a nice car for the money (i.e not much more than shed money).
Overhangs are rediculous though!
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.Overhangs are rediculous though!
Edited by Mike335i on Monday 19th June 06:43
cologne2792 said:
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.
Yeah, I think if you forget notions of performance and focus on a cruiser that makes a nice noise then they begin to make sense. Plus, I saw a nice looking petrol v6 for sub £1795 with only 60k miles! Looked clean, Mot history seems to point to tyres and brakes not being looked after but no major mechanical issues and barely used over the past few years. Diesels are about £1k more, which is quite a lot of fuel paid for! Mike335i said:
cologne2792 said:
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.
Yeah, I think if you forget notions of performance and focus on a cruiser that makes a nice noise then they begin to make sense. Plus, I saw a nice looking petrol v6 for sub £1795 with only 60k miles! Looked clean, Mot history seems to point to tyres and brakes not being looked after but no major mechanical issues and barely used over the past few years. Diesels are about £1k more, which is quite a lot of fuel paid for! The V6 diesels are now starting to appear from about £1,200 or less upward. Problem is that the post April 2006 cars fall into the £500+ VED which is pretty much going to wipe out any savings you make. That seems to be creating a disparity between the 2.0 hdi and the V6 diesel with the four cylinder cars being two to three times the price.
For those considering the 407 with the V6 HDi - be wary as there were two V6 diesels. The far more common is the 2.7 HDi, and the rarer is the 3.0 HDi. The 3.0 is by all accounts a much better engine - faster, smoother, and far better on fuel consumption than the 2.7. It's just a shame that the engine was introduced so late into the lifecycle of the car.
If you need a diesel and want a Peugeot Coupe then I would recommend the 2.2 HDi 406 Coupe as it's a far prettier car (smaller but better-proportioned) and is still pretty quick. 136 HP with 315 NM torque from the factory, and very easily tuneable up to 180 HP (without much hardware modification and without compromising on lifespan). For more serious modders (those who feel comfortable fitting bigger injectors / bigger turbo), there are maps that will take it up to 210 HP and beyond, with only your wallet as the limiting factor.
I'm a petrol guy myself, never owned a diesel, so only going by what other owners have said.
If you need a diesel and want a Peugeot Coupe then I would recommend the 2.2 HDi 406 Coupe as it's a far prettier car (smaller but better-proportioned) and is still pretty quick. 136 HP with 315 NM torque from the factory, and very easily tuneable up to 180 HP (without much hardware modification and without compromising on lifespan). For more serious modders (those who feel comfortable fitting bigger injectors / bigger turbo), there are maps that will take it up to 210 HP and beyond, with only your wallet as the limiting factor.
I'm a petrol guy myself, never owned a diesel, so only going by what other owners have said.
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