407 coupe 3.0 hdi - anybody have one ?

407 coupe 3.0 hdi - anybody have one ?

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cologne2792

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2,144 posts

133 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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Seriously rare car. Does anyone here own one and if so what do do they think of it ?

ericmcn

1,999 posts

104 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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I would sooner use a zimmer frame than own a Peugeot, no matter what stuff they cram into them they lack real driving feel and there is the constant worry of having it in a garage.

craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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Drove one when they were new and it handled like a boat. The overhangs are massive and it was useless round corners. Nice and comfy straight line and that's about it

cologne2792

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2,144 posts

133 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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That's a shame. I have an older 406 coupe by Pininfarina and that really does drive and feel very nice indeed.

craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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cologne2792 said:
That's a shame. I have an older 406 coupe by Pininfarina and that really does drive and feel very nice indeed.
Chalk and cheese. I agree with you. Check out the differences in the overhangs

cologne2792

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2,144 posts

133 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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craigjm said:
cologne2792 said:
That's a shame. I have an older 406 coupe by Pininfarina and that really does drive and feel very nice indeed.
Chalk and cheese. I agree with you. Check out the differences in the overhangs
I haven't seen front overhangs like that since our Citroen CX !

Yuxi

648 posts

196 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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ericmcn said:
I would sooner use a zimmer frame than own a Peugeot, no matter what stuff they cram into them they lack real driving feel and there is the constant worry of having it in a garage.
Thank you

angels95

3,219 posts

137 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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ericmcn said:
I would sooner use a zimmer frame than own a Peugeot, no matter what stuff they cram into them they lack real driving feel and there is the constant worry of having it in a garage.
As the owner of a 306 GTI-6, I couldn't disagree with you more.

Elroy Blue

8,718 posts

199 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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I bought a new petrol version in 2007. Fantastic car. Great spec, supremely comfortable over long distance and absolutely nothing went wrong. Looked brand new when I sold it three years later and it lost less money than any other (modern) car I've owned. (Aided by a huge discount when purchased)




rayyan171

1,294 posts

100 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Never had a peugeot, never fancied one either, yet it does seem like a good proper wafter. Looks like something that would drive very softly and the V6 diesel is a good power plant too that's also used in the range rover/discovery/jaguar xf/xj. Wouldn't be a bad choice.

Barchettaman

6,544 posts

139 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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The auto box is pushed to its limits by the torque output of the 3.0 V6 diesel. The one I bought (2.7 diesel) was already having 'box issues.

As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'

confused_buyer

6,764 posts

188 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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The autobox on the 2.7 era cars tend to suffer with valve body issues. The same box between about 2006 & 2008 suffers exactly the same issues in lots of other cars including Volvo, GM etc.

telecat

8,528 posts

248 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Friend of mine did look at one. Stopped when he saw the RFL on it. As he said it would have to be a much better car to justify the cost.

cologne2792

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2,144 posts

133 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Barchettaman said:
The auto box is pushed to its limits by the torque output of the 3.0 V6 diesel. The one I bought (2.7 diesel) was already having 'box issues.

As you've noted, a very rare car. That engine also pops up in the Citroën C5, which with its hydro suspension and French electronics kind of redefines 'leftfield choice'
I was afraid of that and it probably explains why the torque isn't much higher than the 2.7. About another 35 bhp though which is impressive.
I asked on our forum about the rarity, as they almost never seem to come up for sale, and it's believed that there are only 62 of them registered in the UK !

Mike335i

5,223 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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I actually quite like these, a a manual petrol v6 could be a nice car for the money (i.e not much more than shed money).

Overhangs are rediculous though!

Edited by Mike335i on Monday 19th June 06:43

1Rb

334 posts

162 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Had a 2.7 a good few years ago. Was the consummate mile muncher and in GT spec was generously kitted and had an awesome jbl stereo. Gear box st itself a year into ownership and ended up selling it for what it was bought for to someone who broke it and exported the engine to an engineering school in Botswana.

cologne2792

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2,144 posts

133 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Mike335i said:
I actually quite like these, a a manual petrol v6 could be a nice car for the money (i.e not much more than shed money).

Overhangs are rediculous though!

Edited by Mike335i on Monday 19th June 06:43
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.

Mike335i

5,223 posts

109 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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cologne2792 said:
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.
Yeah, I think if you forget notions of performance and focus on a cruiser that makes a nice noise then they begin to make sense. Plus, I saw a nice looking petrol v6 for sub £1795 with only 60k miles! Looked clean, Mot history seems to point to tyres and brakes not being looked after but no major mechanical issues and barely used over the past few years. Diesels are about £1k more, which is quite a lot of fuel paid for!

cologne2792

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133 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Mike335i said:
cologne2792 said:
I did think about one and they're certainly cheap enough but they were rather slow in comparison to the V6 diesel and used a ridiculous amount of fuel.
Yeah, I think if you forget notions of performance and focus on a cruiser that makes a nice noise then they begin to make sense. Plus, I saw a nice looking petrol v6 for sub £1795 with only 60k miles! Looked clean, Mot history seems to point to tyres and brakes not being looked after but no major mechanical issues and barely used over the past few years. Diesels are about £1k more, which is quite a lot of fuel paid for!
It's a good point Mike.

The V6 diesels are now starting to appear from about £1,200 or less upward. Problem is that the post April 2006 cars fall into the £500+ VED which is pretty much going to wipe out any savings you make. That seems to be creating a disparity between the 2.0 hdi and the V6 diesel with the four cylinder cars being two to three times the price.

406highlander

182 posts

140 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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For those considering the 407 with the V6 HDi - be wary as there were two V6 diesels. The far more common is the 2.7 HDi, and the rarer is the 3.0 HDi. The 3.0 is by all accounts a much better engine - faster, smoother, and far better on fuel consumption than the 2.7. It's just a shame that the engine was introduced so late into the lifecycle of the car.

If you need a diesel and want a Peugeot Coupe then I would recommend the 2.2 HDi 406 Coupe as it's a far prettier car (smaller but better-proportioned) and is still pretty quick. 136 HP with 315 NM torque from the factory, and very easily tuneable up to 180 HP (without much hardware modification and without compromising on lifespan). For more serious modders (those who feel comfortable fitting bigger injectors / bigger turbo), there are maps that will take it up to 210 HP and beyond, with only your wallet as the limiting factor.

I'm a petrol guy myself, never owned a diesel, so only going by what other owners have said.