250 vs 265 cup....

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70proof

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6,075 posts

161 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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anyone care to comment if 265 is worth the extra money....

car would be a daily driver, not a weekend special, and rarely tracked....

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

163 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Get the 250, get it remapped then revel in the chunk of money you still saved over the 265 while owning a car that has more power and drives just as well but faster in a straight line.

And you don't have to press a button to get maximum power!

70proof

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6,075 posts

161 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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thanks... one thing that did worry me about the 265 was the stop start thing..... most reviewers didn;t like it...... i hate it on the wife's cooper s...

framerateuk

2,771 posts

190 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Unlike the old 225 and 230 Meganes, there's very little difference between the 250 and 265. The chassis is identical, the only real differences are a few decorative changes, a different head unit for the radio, and different rev counter and speedo.

Performance wise you'd obviously get the extra 15hp in the 265, but you need to press the Sport button to get it. Personally, in the 250, I drive around with Sport mode on most of the time anyway - unless I'm in traffic.

I'm sure you'd enjoy both, just see what turns up and go for whichever takes your fancy. Put it like this though, my PCP deal on my 250 ends in September and I'll be keeping it instead of swapping for a 265 - there just isn't enough of a difference to warrant changing it.

Technomatt

1,085 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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70proof said:
thanks... one thing that did worry me about the 265 was the stop start thing..... most reviewers didn;t like it...... i hate it on the wife's cooper s...
It's OK if you want to drop a VED band for the road tax and save a bit on fuel, but it also adds weight to the car and just makes life more complicated.

You can get an early used 265 without the stop start, or just get a seconhand 250 as they are the same car really and great value now, particularly the Cup (or the + Cup pack).

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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See my thread... wink

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Best to test drive of both, also depends if you want a newer car that has had less abuse, or try to save money with a 250.

Problem is 250 Cups are pretty rare, moreso in the spec I'd want (18s & RS Monitor fitted), so haven't had a chance to drive one yet irked

I doubt you'd be disappointed with a 265 though. From what I've heard the 265 also has a modified intake for moar noise rotate

Edited by MarkRSi on Thursday 21st March 13:06

celticstevie

329 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Does any garage have these in stock as demos in Scotland. I'm looking for a daily driver and local dealerships in glasgow area don't have them available in stock

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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celticstevie said:
Does any garage have these in stock as demos in Scotland. I'm looking for a daily driver and local dealerships in glasgow area don't have them available in stock
Could check out Ness Motors in Perth, if it's not too far?

There's a couple of 'Renaultsport Specialists' in Glasgow, surely one of those must have a 265 demo car?

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/home/SpecialistsDeal...

celticstevie

329 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Popped into Motherwell, no stock, phoned glasgow on Friday and they haven't got back to me, will phone edi today. Thought we had a recession?

andrewhutch1

33 posts

142 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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I had 2 250s and am now in a 265.

You can tell the difference, even in standard 250 mode. There's a nicer burble and more pops on the overrun.
Put it into Sport/265 mode, even compared to sport mode on the 250 (to negate the fact that you're sharpening up throttle response), it feels beastier. A much more aural experience and better power - that you can definitely feel.

Other differences - no negative changes other than I preferred the old head unit as that's what I'd gotten used to.
More DRLs in the front blade (6 per side on the 265 vs 3 on the 250) and the DRLs are standard now, they were optional previously. I like the gloss black and red touches inside too - it seems a more complete looking interior than previously. It's all greys, blacks and reds. No random yellow now, not even on the rev counter.





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I'm lucky I've not got a stop start one. I don't want it from what I've heard.

I think it's definitely better. But is it worth paying the extra for? It's a tough call as it's pricing new vs used too. Used is always a more sensible choice.

Consider this... Renault UK staff cars get changed on circa 11k miles or 9 months (whichever comes first) so those early 265s (non start stop) will be hitting the dealerships soon. That way you get a used bargain, no stop start and a 265.

Edited by andrewhutch1 on Monday 25th March 09:15

CarlT

3,423 posts

253 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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You can switch stop/start off, plus if you don't put the car into neutral when stationary then it won't activate anyway!
I really don't get the hatred for stop/start.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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CarlT said:
You can switch stop/start off, plus if you don't put the car into neutral when stationary then it won't activate anyway!
I really don't get the hatred for stop/start.
Is the PH fleet 265 the only one with the stop/start issues?

70proof

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6,075 posts

161 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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thanks everyone..... sound advice...... still confused though as i would be happy to get a remap/do a few mods..... if stock, think 265 wins from whats been said....

Technomatt

1,085 posts

139 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Stop/start adds about 10kg to the weight. Not pleasant.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Technomatt said:
Stop/start adds about 10kg to the weight. Not pleasant.
Shouldn't it just be a slightly bigger/durable start motor? How have they managed to add 10kgs?

Technomatt

1,085 posts

139 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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MarkRSi said:
Technomatt said:
Stop/start adds about 10kg to the weight. Not pleasant.
Shouldn't it just be a slightly bigger/durable start motor? How have they managed to add 10kgs?
The systems have more to them than just a durable starter motor.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Technomatt said:
The systems have more to them than just a durable starter motor.
Go on.

Technomatt

1,085 posts

139 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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MarkRSi said:
Go on.
Try google.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

224 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Technomatt said:
Try google.
Which tends to suggest it's nothing more than automated turn off/restart of the engine using existing components, just a bit of fancy software at the end of the day.

Sorry, I thought you knew something we didn't, never mind tongue out

Edited by MarkRSi on Wednesday 27th March 09:00

Technomatt

1,085 posts

139 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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MarkRSi said:
Which tends to suggest it's nothing more than automated turn off/restart of the engine using existing components, just a bit of fancy software at the end of the day.

Sorry, I thought you knew something we didn't, never mind tongue out

Edited by MarkRSi on Wednesday 27th March 09:00
Existing components with different design standards, performance and reliability and additional components.