205 gti gti-6

[daryl1205]

Hello everone am new on here iv got a 205 1.9 gti that im about to put a gti-6 lump in
so iv got pretty much all i need to do this engine swap all i need to know is what clutch i need for running a 1.6 205 gearbox can i use the 205 clutch on the gti-6 flywheel or do i need toget another clutch to mae it work
thanks daryl

[tortop45]

Don,t do it cos these cars are getting quit collectable ...........

[daryl1205]

tortop45 said:

Don,t do it cos these cars are getting quit collectable ...........

that was my first thought but im not wasting money getting a set of cams ect for the sake of 25bhp when for less money i can gain more than 25bhp plus it can be changed back again if need be

[AlexRS2782]

Best bet is to visit www.205gtidrivers.com and click on the forum subtab.

The conversion has been done quite a few times and there are a number of threads/posts on there with different suggestions based on use of car, etc

[daryl1205]

It doesn't tell you much about what clutch you can use it only said a vts clutch plus geting on the forum is a to do

[jord294]

personally mate, you've got such a rare colour car, it would be a crime to modify it!!!!!!!

keep it o/e

[Old Merc]

I worked with 205GTi`s all through the 80`s & early 90`s and have seen all the conversions.I always thought why? what`s the point of all that work?
The 1.9 205GTi is a cracking car (so is the 306GTi6)why mess them about? The front end was not designed for a XU10J4 so to do it properly everything needs changing.If Peugeot thought it a good idea they would have produced a 16V 205!
As said,205GTi`s are becoming rare and judging by the photo yours is a nice one.My advice is spend your time and money rebuilding it to show condition.A fully rebuilt XU9J with all the ancillaries in perfect condition is quite quick enough.Perhaps some work on the ECU and move the air flow meter inline would make it a bit better.The important aspect with classics (yes,the 205GTi IS a true classic)keep it all original.Remember the money you spend you may get back? GOOD GTi`s are going up in value all the time.
...The other option is to get a nice 306GTi6? and that is a cracking car!!

[k22wes]

you need to use an mi16 clutch on the gti6 flywheel. i fitted a billet lightweight flywheel when i did mine and it makes a lot of difference. i wouldn't use the 1.6 box unless its a track only car, it revs too high at 70+. i have a xsara vts box on mine.

[daryl1205]

Iv been told the mi16 clutch is wrong on another forum most people say its an xsara vts clutch I need but I want to see what other clutches I can use so I can get a paddle clutch at the cheapest price

Also I'd like it if people would stop spamming my post with don't change the engine crap iv had x2 1.9 8v engines in it and had too much problems so am going a newer engine ye I have been toled it's a rare one iv not seen many steel grey 205's with green carpets but all can be changes back easy enough

[k22wes]

the vts clutch is the same as a gti6 one, they go the wrong way for a 205, push not pull type. you really need to join the 205 forum, all the info is on there.

[AD64]

your one looks like its in great condition - keep it totally original and you will have a great car that is only going to go up in value over next few years - getting more and more difficult to find good original/unmolested 1.9's at sensible prices.

been looking for some time and I have just bought a totally original 1991 1.6 that needs a small amount of work to be done (normal seat repair, tiny bit of bodywork repair, paint fade etc) - personally wouldn't touch anything with engine conversion.

[Simes205]

I have to agree, with hindsight I wouldn't have modified mine.
However for sheer grin factor it is even more fun.

Do the conversion right and keep all the original parts you can always put her back to normal.

[Simes205]

daryl1205 said:

It doesn't tell you much about what clutch you can use it only said a vts clutch plus geting on the forum is a to do

It keeps the riff raff out.
I'm a mod on there

[daryl1205]

so i can only use the mi16 clutch i cant use the 205 one or any other pull type clutch

[Furyblade_Lee]

Daryl, I have noticed some really nice already converted cars out there for next to no money. I build kitcars so am not adverse to engine swaps, but if yours is rare you might find someone is willing to pay you top money for it as is and then just go and buy one already done. Just sayin! But I'd love a go in a nice Gti-6 205, I rekon its a great engine choice. Good luck if you go ahead, post some pics up.

[daryl1205]

well i cant get the car running not getting a spark had 2 engins and 2 looms in it and am not paying £700 for getting the camshaft done so just going for a gti-6

more pics of the car atm

[C. Grimsley]

I done mine with a vts box and used a vts/gti6 clutch and modified the cable it all works ok, I had the same argument about the conversion when I did mine four years ago, it's your car do as you please, I love mine.



Although a good 1.9 can be sold for silly money with the right bits and condition.

Carl

[dom9]

J-reg Steelie... So much want!

I'm another who would vote for a standard rebuild but that wasn't the question!

Like you say - can always be put back to standard!

Get on the 205gtidrivers forum and all your questions will be answered there, by a good bunch of people.

[tortop45]

Looking at the year of your gti it all only be a 115 hp car any way not a 130 car so should go well.love to have a go when its done.

[k22wes]

tortop45 said:

Looking at the year of your gti it all only be a 115 hp car any way not a 130 car so should go well.love to have a go when its done.

it is a 130hp, they didnt have a cat until k reg and the late ones had a plastic manifold. the 1.6 was 115hp.