Clio 172?

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Little Butch

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589 posts

184 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Looking at these for my next car. Only had the GT TDI 115 Golf for a week and although it's a big improvement over my other cars in comfort, it's slow and handles like a boat! It'll do until I September though where I will have been driving for 3 years and have a years no claims (insurance has been stopped and started previously) and can afford to insure something 'fun'. By afford I mean scrimp and scrape..

Before I got the Golf I had a 106 Rallye S2 which I kind of regret getting rid of, handled like a dream and was so chuckable! Which is what I'm looking for from the next car, along with a bit more pace.

After selling the Golf I should have about £1500/£2000 to play with for the next car.I've been looking at 172's but what else is out there in my pricerange that offers decent handling, reasonable pace and not a complete crippler on insurance?

grenpayne

2,011 posts

168 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Not a lot biggrin

I arrived at a Clio 172 when I had a similar budget last year for my daily drive. I wanted the same things (ie handling, pace etc) and I would argue that there are not many cars out there that will compare for the money. The only ones I came up with were the 106 GTi, 306 GTi/Rallye, and possibly an MG ZR.

£1500 should get you a Phase 1 172 and £2000 a Phase 2. That's what I paid for mine (see my profile) and it was in very good nick with low miles. I've had it 9 months now and apart from needing a new radiator (took a stone on the M4) and a new cat (common at 10 years old) it's been trouble free and fun motoring. I commute 12 miles to work and I see 40 - 45mpg out of it with care, but it's rapid when you put your foot down!

There are buyers guides on the net, take a printout when you go to see one and you should be fine. I don't regret getting mine at all smile

Little Butch

Original Poster:

589 posts

184 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Thanks for the informative post smile

chucker2

88 posts

176 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I have had my ph2 172 since end of November last year. After having a 1.2 8v then a 1.6 16v i decided i had to go for either a 172 or 182. Its a comfy ride but even with the standard suspension it handles really well without the rough bumpy ride. One of my mates has recently bought a 200 cup and hes lucky to average over 34mpg on a motorway where as mine doing the same run following him was sitting at 42mpg so fuel economy is great as well. I think the 172 is great value for money. Mine is the full fat so climate control, xenon's, half leather, cruise control and with 3 years no claims the insurance isn't to bad either to be honest. I love it def a thumbs up from me smile

DaveL485

2,758 posts

203 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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I bought my 172 with the intention of fixing the issues and selling it on, as i'm more into the older Turbo stuff.

Six months later i'm still enjoying it and tactfully avoiding any queries on the for-sale ad smile

Great car for the money!

Mark Smith

164 posts

225 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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I bought my 172 Ph1 three and a half years ago and its been such a blast to own and drive. I've done 15 trackdays in it, and put around 35,000 miles on it. Its now got 124,000 miles on the clock and still drives like a fairly new car. There's not many cars that are as much fun to drive.

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

235 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Both my Wife and I love our Ph1 172, it's a hoot to drive.

Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage. If you want a fast, great handling, fun car then get one! I specifically wanted a Ph1 because it's got a cable throttle (heal and toe is easy) and just a little more raw than the newer ones.

DaveL485

2,758 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

235 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
IIRC a dealer will charge £500-£600. With respect (I don't know what your method is and my comment is completely generic) some places who have years of experience changing belts will think they know how to do it, and for all intents and purposes they're right, but will not use the correct tools for the job and will cock it up.

You need the correct locking tools in addition to the belt kit itself. £300 is a great price however and if you are using proper Renault tools plus decent parts then that's a great service.

roystinho

3,767 posts

181 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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I've just bought a 172 Ph1. 77k, 2 owners for £1500. Bit of a bargain I think. Getting the belts done as a precaution as even though it looked pretty new, there was no evidence of it being done in the paperwork (helped me with bargaining if nothing else). Gonna be a little track project over time, really looking forward to tinkering and getting it on track

DaveL485

2,758 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
IIRC a dealer will charge £500-£600. With respect (I don't know what your method is and my comment is completely generic) some places who have years of experience changing belts will think they know how to do it, and for all intents and purposes they're right, but will not use the correct tools for the job and will cock it up.

You need the correct locking tools in addition to the belt kit itself. £300 is a great price however and if you are using proper Renault tools plus decent parts then that's a great service.
Appreciate that, and you're right. I have bought the correct locking tools (Floating pulleys, you'd be stupid not to!) and i'm not a garage, I just do it for fun, really.....usually found under a Renault 21 as opposed to a Clio.

Was hugely surprised (and pleased) at how easy the rear shocks were to change too!

xavierkx250

86 posts

167 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Get one! I had one for a couple of years and it was more fun than an Audi R8 (IMO). I wrote this on www.nitroaddiction.co.uk.

Zav

LordHaveMurci

12,070 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Had my 172 Cup for about two years now & wouldn't be without it! It's a 2nd car bought mainly to hillclimb but it's such great fun I use it on my (short) daily commute. It has thrown up a few niggles, mainly electrical but they are known faults & being french, don't cost that much to fix. Get over to cliosport.net, it's a great resource.

kayzee

2,942 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
If you're serious then that's absolutely great! Don't post that on ClioSport though lol, they will rip you apart. They recommend not buying a RS Clio unless it has a receipt for £500+ for doing the cambelt change... or else it must have been done incorrectly.

It's been known for main dealers to charge over £1,000

roystinho

3,767 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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kayzee said:
DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
If you're serious then that's absolutely great! Don't post that on ClioSport though lol, they will rip you apart. They recommend not buying a RS Clio unless it has a receipt for £500+ for doing the cambelt change... or else it must have been done incorrectly.

It's been known for main dealers to charge over £1,000
Just had my cambelt done at a main Renaultsport Specialist dealers for a good chunk under £500

DaveL485

2,758 posts

203 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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kayzee said:
DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
If you're serious then that's absolutely great! Don't post that on ClioSport though lol, they will rip you apart. They recommend not buying a RS Clio unless it has a receipt for £500+ for doing the cambelt change... or else it must have been done incorrectly.
I already popped in there. Popped straight back out again too! Plonkers.

kayzee

2,942 posts

187 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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roystinho said:
kayzee said:
DaveL485 said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Do your research though, a belt change is expensive and essential at certain age/mileage.
It's really not if you go to the right place. I do em for around £300 for Aux/Cam and all idlers and tensioners.
If you're serious then that's absolutely great! Don't post that on ClioSport though lol, they will rip you apart. They recommend not buying a RS Clio unless it has a receipt for £500+ for doing the cambelt change... or else it must have been done incorrectly.

It's been known for main dealers to charge over £1,000
Just had my cambelt done at a main Renaultsport Specialist dealers for a good chunk under £500
An actual offical Renault dealership!? Or an independant Renault specialist...

If the former, this is an absolute steal, and the guys over on ClioSport would love to know more so please post details! Even still, many people would rather go to an indy specialist.

roystinho

3,767 posts

181 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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kayzee said:
An actual offical Renault dealership!? Or an independant Renault specialist...

If the former, this is an absolute steal, and the guys over on ClioSport would love to know more so please post details! Even still, many people would rather go to an indy specialist.
Ok, maybe a bit unfair as I'm good friends with the workshop manager, but yeah, a proper Renault Renaultsport Dealer. Don't know what the regular price would be, but if I reccomend you I'll see what the score would be smile

roystinho

3,767 posts

181 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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Price for a cambelt on a Phase 1 would be £525 from Harratts Wakefield. Other 1*2's may be a little bit more depending on variant.

Ask for Adam and say Danny recommended you.

If you can find it cheaper elsewhere still get in touch with him and he may be able to price match

JB!

5,255 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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is there any buysers guides for 172's 182's?