Peugeot 205 1.1 to GTI-6
Discussion
Hi guys.
Ive picked up a mint, 45,000 mile, 3 door (non sunroof) 1.1 205 in white. I want to do the 2.0 16v GTI-6/VTS conversion so I have a few questions;
I'm going to use a 1.6 GTI gearbox, brakes and subframe (with ARB, steering rack and wishbones) but what hubs and driveshafts should I use? Could I use the 1.1 units?
Do I need a bigger radiator (GTI?) or will the 1.1 radiator be ok?
Lastly dose anyone know a place in the South West that has carried out this conversion? Any idea on cost if I were to source all the parts myself?
Ive picked up a mint, 45,000 mile, 3 door (non sunroof) 1.1 205 in white. I want to do the 2.0 16v GTI-6/VTS conversion so I have a few questions;
I'm going to use a 1.6 GTI gearbox, brakes and subframe (with ARB, steering rack and wishbones) but what hubs and driveshafts should I use? Could I use the 1.1 units?
Do I need a bigger radiator (GTI?) or will the 1.1 radiator be ok?
Lastly dose anyone know a place in the South West that has carried out this conversion? Any idea on cost if I were to source all the parts myself?
I'm not sure it's best to start off with a GTI tbh, how much would a very tidy one cost? £2,000+?
The 1.1 cost £600, the front subframe would have to come out anyway to renew the bushes, brakes, etc. I can build it up inside and swap the whole unit over, same with the rear end. Your correct about the fuel pump, I remember now that it's best to swap the tanks over.
Any ideas on the cooling and driveshafts?
As to cost, I'm just after a rough idea for someone to drop the engine in and having it running and connected to the dash.
The 1.1 cost £600, the front subframe would have to come out anyway to renew the bushes, brakes, etc. I can build it up inside and swap the whole unit over, same with the rear end. Your correct about the fuel pump, I remember now that it's best to swap the tanks over.
Any ideas on the cooling and driveshafts?
As to cost, I'm just after a rough idea for someone to drop the engine in and having it running and connected to the dash.
1.6 shafts will fit into the 1.1 hubs which will allow you to use 1.9 or gti6 brakes, that's what I run on mine.
If you have everything ready to fit miles at pug racing will do you a good price. Bearing in mind you will need updated engine mounts, modified exhaust mani, new clutch, modified down pipe, cam belt and pump, Plus any extras like silicone hoses, lightened flywheel etc, it soon adds up
If you have everything ready to fit miles at pug racing will do you a good price. Bearing in mind you will need updated engine mounts, modified exhaust mani, new clutch, modified down pipe, cam belt and pump, Plus any extras like silicone hoses, lightened flywheel etc, it soon adds up
Edited by k22wes on Saturday 26th November 23:07
I don't really see the big problem with using a 1.1, the only extra work will be the fuel tank and dials (they would have to come out anyway). The brakes, drivetrain and suspension would come out anyway regardless of what 205 it is. Like I said it cost me £600 with 12 months test and tax, so I can use it up until the conversion.
Anyway back on topic.... I might use the Xsara VTS gearbox, if I do what driveshafts can be used?
With the brakes, I was under the impression (out of 1.6 or 1.9) that it was best to use 1.6 as they are alloy and don't have to fit onto a yoke?? So 1.6 calipers with 1.9 discs using the 1.1 hub?
Anyway back on topic.... I might use the Xsara VTS gearbox, if I do what driveshafts can be used?
With the brakes, I was under the impression (out of 1.6 or 1.9) that it was best to use 1.6 as they are alloy and don't have to fit onto a yoke?? So 1.6 calipers with 1.9 discs using the 1.1 hub?
Edited by Nath88n on Tuesday 29th November 22:35
Nath88n said:
I don't really see the big problem with using a 1.1, the only extra work will be the fuel tank and dials (they would have to come out anyway). The brakes, drivetrain and suspension would come out anyway regardless of what 205 it is. Like I said it cost me £600 with 12 months test and tax, so I can use it up until the conversion.
Anyway back on topic.... I might use the Xsara VTS gearbox, if I do what driveshafts can be used?
With the brakes, I was under the impression (out of 1.6 or 1.9) that it was best to use 1.6 as they are alloy and don't have to fit onto a yoke?? So 1.6 calipers with 1.9 discs using the 1.1 hub?
i have the xsara box on mine using the standard 1.6 shafts into base model hubs with gti6 brakes.Anyway back on topic.... I might use the Xsara VTS gearbox, if I do what driveshafts can be used?
With the brakes, I was under the impression (out of 1.6 or 1.9) that it was best to use 1.6 as they are alloy and don't have to fit onto a yoke?? So 1.6 calipers with 1.9 discs using the 1.1 hub?
Edited by Nath88n on Tuesday 29th November 22:35
you cannot use 1.6 brakes on anything other than 1.6 hubs as the offset is different hense why i have changed mine to base model hubs. you would need to use either 1.9 or gti6 brakes on a 1.1 or 1.9 hub.
you really need to get into the 205gtidrivers forum as all this info is on there.
Rubbish! that engine is no newer, the xu10j4rs was in a car for the first timr in early 1997....
Theres no reason not to do it, its been done one million times and is extremely common, and you get a car with a 0-60 akin with a brand new golf gti. And the torque in a car that size is immense
Theres no reason not to do it, its been done one million times and is extremely common, and you get a car with a 0-60 akin with a brand new golf gti. And the torque in a car that size is immense
In terms of overall straight-line performance, the TU5J4 in a 205 would be little or no better than fitting a healthy 1.6 or 1.9 8v XU. The XU10J4RS is a significant upgrade over the standard 8v engines, and would see you near 200bhp/ton. For the record, that's Impreza STI territory, so it's well worth the effort 
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