2004 Clio 182 value? Help appreciated.

[Luke.]

Morning all. Just been checking Parkers for prices, which naturally seems well out and used values seem a little all over the place.

Can anyone tell me what they think a 2004 Clio 182, 40,000 miles with both packs and in good nick is worth as a private sale?

Viewing a car on Saturday and really want to offer a fair price, though currently think his asking price at £4500 odd is a little high.

Cheers

[Luke.]

Anyone?

[StoatInACoat]

Depends on a few things. Location is a biggie, followed by cambelt history which is expensive and will need to have been done on that one, how complete/anal the service history is, where it's been serviced, etc.

Even so I'd say that is a touch on the high side and wouldn't want to pay anywhere near that for a private sale in case the car turned out to be a bag of bolts. For that money I'd want an immaculate car, a dealer and a warranty (which I got with mine) just in case. I'd personally pay over the odds for a really good car with very good history and all the problems rectified than save a grand on a potential turd.

In a minute you'll be shown lots of knackered, chavved and otherwise ruined examples of the same car on ebay for 20p thus demonstrating these cars "real" value. Forums are very good for driving down the price...

Edited by StoatInACoat on Wednesday 5th October 16:20

[rb5er]

You could be into a trophy for that sort of money. As said it may be worth it if its had the cambelt done and is mint but personally (flamesuit on) id rather a cheaper example as they can be had for a couple of grand and its really just a clio.

[Luke.]

StoatInACoat said:

Depends on a few things. Location is a biggie, followed by cambelt history which is expensive and will need to have been done on that one, how complete/anal the service history is, where it's been serviced, etc.

Even so I'd say that is a touch on the high side and wouldn't want to pay anywhere near that for a private sale in case the car turned out to be a bag of bolts. For that money I'd want an immaculate car, a dealer and a warranty (which I got with mine) just in case. I'd personally pay over the odds for a really good car with very good history and all the problems rectified than save a grand on a potential turd.

In a minute you'll be shown lots of knackered, chavved and otherwise ruined examples of the same car on ebay for 20p thus demonstrating these cars "real" value. Forums are very good for driving down the price...

Edited by StoatInACoat on Wednesday 5th October 16:20

When you say location - you literally mean where the car is? Sorry, I know that's sounds bit thick on my part. Also its had two owners and last service was done 4000 miles ago by Renault and the bloke selling it says its mint. (Though obviously he would - but it does look nice from the the pics.)

[Luke.]

rb5er said:

You could be into a trophy for that sort of money. As said it may be worth it if its had the cambelt done and is mint but personally (flamesuit on) id rather a cheaper example as they can be had for a couple of grand and its really just a clio.

Really love the Trophy, but the sachs is putting me off a little

[rb5er]

Luke. said:

Really love the Trophy, but the sachs is putting me off a little

But the trophy will hold its value that bit better which could negate the cost of damper refurb if it was ever needed. And soo much rarer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-55-RENAULT-CLIO-2-0...

[Luke.]

rb5er said:

But the trophy will hold its value that bit better which could negate the cost of damper refurb if it was ever needed. And soo much rarer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-55-RENAULT-CLIO-2-0...

Yeah, I know what you mean. By the way, hasn't that one got the wrong seats?

Also, is the normal 182 really that different to drive?

[rb5er]

Yeh that one does not have the Recaros so probably not the best example.

I have only ever driven a few cups but to be fair I would expect them to be pretty similar.

More the rarity factor, colour and seats that do it for me.

Or for a few quid more... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-RENAULT-CLIO-RENAUL...

Edited by rb5er on Wednesday 5th October 17:08

[StoatInACoat]

Luke. said:

When you say location - you literally mean where the car is? Sorry, I know that's sounds bit thick on my part. Also its had two owners and last service was done 4000 miles ago by Renault and the bloke selling it says its mint. (Though obviously he would - but it does look nice from the the pics.)

Indeed. These cars from what I've seen seem to fluctuate wildly in price depending on where they are - seemingly more so than other stuff I looked at. Far more valuable in the South East for example.

ETA: I would probabily be trying to up the budget a little and looking at Meganes for that kind of money. The Clio is fun but (as said) it is still a Clio and £5k is a lot.

Edited by StoatInACoat on Wednesday 5th October 20:11

[Frog Dog]

What colour? Does it have the cup packs?

Mileage?

[Luke.]

Frog Dog said:

What colour? Does it have the cup packs?

Mileage?

The car's in Kent. In the darker blue (not the racing one), 40k, both cup packs, 2 owners, new discs and pads. Will dig out the description.

Re Megane - really after just a little hot hatch to run alongside my Subaru.

[Luke.]

Described here:

For Sale Is My Much Loved Immaculate Clio 182 Sport. Only Selling Due To Deposit For New Flat. Full Service History, 12 Months MOT, Taxed Till 03/12, New Front & Rear Break Pads, Only 39,730miles, One Previous Owner, Manual, 3Door Hatchback, Petrol, Blue, Climate Control, Alarm, Tracker Fitted, Full Cup Pack's Includes Anthracite Colour Alloy Wheels, Cup Suspension & Part Leather Seats, Renault Sport Mats Throughout, Xenon Headlamps, Cruise Control, Driver & Passenger Airbag, Anti-Lock Breaks, Sport Seats, Side Airbags, ESP, Radio/CD, Trip Computer, Traction Control, Electric Door Mirrors, Front Electric Windows, PAS, Multi Function Steering Wheel, Folding Rear Seats, Front Fog Lights, Adjustable Steering Wheel, Both Original Two Keys, Serviced At Renault 4000 Miles Ago. This Car Is In Superb Condition Throughout And Has Been A Pleasure To Own. When Purchasing I Looked At A Lot Of Clio's And This One Was The Best Condition I Found Also Being Completely Standard With No Modifications. I will Be Sorry To See The Car Go But I Can Ensure This Is In Great Condition And Will Be A Great Buy.

[Frog Dog]

Arctic Blue then, lovely colour (though liquid yellow would be my choice) nice that its got both cup packs.

I'd say 4500 isn't a hideous price. Probably close to a retail price though.

Try and pay closer to 4. Nice car for that.

[StoatInACoat]

If it's as original as it sounds check the exhaust and mounts carefully. Expensive to replace and seemingly crap quality. Most have aftermarket ones.

[Luke.]

StoatInACoat said:

If it's as original as it sounds check the exhaust and mounts carefully. Expensive to replace and seemingly crap quality. Most have aftermarket ones.

Is there a simple way to check them without getting the car up on a ramp? I'm not the most mechanically minded..

[StoatInACoat]

Luke. said:

Is there a simple way to check them without getting the car up on a ramp? I'm not the most mechanically minded..

If the mounts are knackered the tailpipes will droop and be easy to wiggle about by hand. If the exhuast is knackered it'll bow (sound like a fart) and be rotten around the joints and the welds. Surface rust if fine and normal

[Luke.]

StoatInACoat said:

If the mounts are knackered the tailpipes will droop and be easy to wiggle about by hand. If the exhuast is knackered it'll bow (sound like a fart) and be rotten around the joints and the welds. Surface rust if fine and normal

Cheers, that's really helpful.

[StoatInACoat]

Incidently the mounts aren't the expensive bit - Prima racing upgraded ones are about £35 from memory (well worth the extra tenner from the standard ones imo) but you need two for a 182 and flapping about will break a rotten exhaust.