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pitzzapia

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59 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Hi All,

I'm looking to get a nitro powered RC car / buggy to play around with on weekends. Unfortunately I know nothing about them and there seems to be a lot of choice out there. Can anyone recommend a make / model for around £200?

Cheers

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Google 'HPI Racing'

They do some great nitro stuff.

phillvr6

3,785 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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pitzzapia

Original Poster:

59 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Thanks Phil,

Perhaps an admin can move the thread? smile


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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pitzzapia said:
Hi All,

I'm looking to get a nitro powered RC car / buggy to play around with on weekends. Unfortunately I know nothing about them and there seems to be a lot of choice out there. Can anyone recommend a make / model for around £200?

Cheers
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The_Jackal

4,854 posts

202 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Go for the Hyper 7 Black Edition, I'm sure most other nitro nuts here will recommmend the same thing.
Spares are much cheaper and more easily available than most other cars and is still capable of keeping up with other more expensive buggies (this of course depends on your driving skill).

pitzzapia

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59 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Thanks Jackal,

The Hyper 7 has really good reviews, I'll check it out for sure. You mention spare parts though, do RC cars break down often?

Another one I was considering was the HPI Nitro MT-2 G3.0 RTR (link below)

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpec...

Do you think the Hyper 7 is still the best all round choice?

Cheers




TISPKJ

3,651 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?CallFunction...


Hi Mate, I bought one of these just over a year ago, not had much chance to use it and told that you cant race it in competition which was never my intention anyway, great fun and wickedly quick, always starts on the button, make sure you dont leave old fuel in it, you need a big old area to play like a playing field, told bits are dearer than that MP7 thingy.

Have fun

AWRacing

1,729 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I've got a Clio V6 nitro RC that i'm looking at getting rid of if anyones interested?

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

202 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Yeah the MT2 is a good starter truck, its 4wd too which I think is better off road as opposed to the Firestorm which is 2wd. Both are good truck though and well supported.

It depends how hard you throw them around and crash but you will at some point need to buy some bit for them, but its not a problem.
If you ever want to race on a track (depends if there is one near you) the Hyper will be better in the long run.

Mikey G

4,756 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Unless you know what you are doing and maybe have friends with nitro powered buggies you are in for a frustrating time getting the thing going and keeping it going.
Where do you intend to use it?
Are you looking to go racing in the future?
Is there a club and friendly modelshop nearby you can get help and parts from for your buggy?

As i help out in my local shop in my spare time i tend to see a lot of people who come into the shop and buy the first big truck they set there eyes on and have absolutly no idea what to do with it. A few days later they return with either running problems or a pile of bits as they have not taken onboard the advice we have given them. They then realise that turning that screw in too much makes engines go bang, and also a failsafe is a worthy investment after their battery has gone flat and thrown their expensive 'toy' into a tree or brick wall....

A Hyper 7 is a good buy, the RTR versions are good fun for bashing, but will also need a lot of money spending to get them legal and competitive even at local club events. But that goes for most RTR buggies anyway.

HPI make good strong trucks and you cant go wrong with the Firestorm and MT2 1:10 cars. The Savage may be a bit out of your price league but is popular with bashers for there ability to jump well.
Parts backup for HPI products is far superior to Hobao for the Hypers, and for that reason my local shop has stopped doing stuff from the Hobao supplier as we keep letting customers down.

HPI have an 1/8th scale rallycross buggy coming out soon and that may well take the competition back to HPI from Hobao for the bashing market with the rallycross cars.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

202 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Really? You got any links to the HPI buggy?

pitzzapia

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59 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Mikey G said:
Where do you intend to use it?
Wherever I can really. Most likely in empty car parks, woodland areas and anywhere I can find with some decent terrain.

Mikey G said:
Are you looking to go racing in the future?
Not in the near future, I am just getting into it and would like to keep it as a casual hobby for the time being.

Mikey G said:
Is there a club and friendly modelshop nearby you can get help and parts from for your buggy?
There is a modelzone in Holborn that I am aware of but I haven’t popped in to gauge their friendliness or knowledge yet. I know there is a shop in Yorkshire which has a decent website as well though.


Are there any basic tips you would give to a beginner? I know not leaving fuel in the car when your not using it is one... Sorry for being such a noob!

Mikey G

4,756 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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The_Jackal said:
Really? You got any links to the HPI buggy?
HPI are releasing more details very soon but i have come across this link.

http://planetsavage.at/images/hpi2k8.pdf

Its clled the Trophy 3.5 so i assume its going to be a proper .21 engined buggy smile

Mikey G

4,756 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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pitzzapia said:
Are there any basic tips you would give to a beginner? I know not leaving fuel in the car when your not using it is one... Sorry for being such a noob!
Make sure whatever you buy you can get parts for it, dont rely on eBay for them as there can be so many differences due to newer models coming out. Take the Hyper 7 for instance, i just bought a replacement Pro rolling chassis for mine as it was going cheap, to find the new chassis is 3mm longer than my current one. Not too much of an issue but these things do change. Also some Hyper 7 models ran 3.5mm shock rods instead of 3mm in others.

Fuel goes off quickly and can cause running problems, so yes if it doesnt get used regularly you need to flush it out and put a little after run oil into the engine to protect it from corrosion.
Stick to the same % of nitro fuel, and try not to mix brands too much as oil type and content can vary. Keep a stock of the same make/type of glow plugs as these can go and have different heat ranges so any old plug will not run the same as the last one the engine ran on.
If you buy a pull start car, dont over pull the starter as you will only damage it, find its maximum length and then take a bit back, stand over the starter pulling towards you using your body as a maximum pull guide.
In pull starts you have a oneway bearing, these go over time and start to slip, maybe carry a spare so you dont get dissapointed if one goes while you are out with the car, and to find the modelshop has ran out aswell...

Other than that get out and enjoy one smile

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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They're a little over your stated budget I think, but have a look at some of the cars from Schumacher.

Here's an on-road car:

http://www.racing-cars.com/products.asp?recnumber=...

2.85hp, 33000rpm and 80mph sounds good to me. smile

I have an old Schumacher Nitro 10 from a few years back, I had a couple of noob issues getting it running initially but after that it was great. Quick to start, 60mph and reliable.

My tips would be to make sure that the glow plug is in good order and to use Ni-Cad batteries for starting. Also, because of the type of fuel these cars run (the oil is a component part), they can cause a bit of a mess from the exhaust when running. The fuel is pretty dangerous stuff and the smoke is also toxic so pay attention to the safety side of things. I had an on-road version and I used it in a large garden on a reasonably smooth grass surface and it ran well, albeit with quite a lot of understeer. smile

Good luck and have fun.

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

230 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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i had an on road kyosho twin speed automatic clutch nitro car with a diablo GTR-SV body on it

problems had where mostly down to trying to find anywhere big enough to run it.

then once found you had to make sure there where no kerbs or what not cos at full speed it can take a while to find all the peices (trust me i did this regular) they really are too low, hit a large peice of rubble and the car is in the air.

In the end it had full alloy/carbom/graphite everything, every possible performance upgrade, including sports exhaust and alledgidly better glow plug (didnt notice any diff myself)

ill try and dig up a pic, i dont have it anymore, the missus got a bit pissed with me spending 1500 quid on a toy car so to save the earache i put it on ebay for 1p

it actually sold for 235 pound inc radios and a complete almost brand new spare car (was used for swiping bits from)

i have been looking at the sand buggy type cars recently though as i think these will be more useable than the road cars as they can be run on lots more places.

edit to add pics -

body was as low as it would go due to head of engine touching the roof!











Edited by DucatiGary on Friday 29th August 10:58

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

225 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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You're supposed to have a hole in the body for the head of the engine to stick out!

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

230 months

Sunday 31st August 2008
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R5GTTgaz said:
You're supposed to have a hole in the body for the head of the engine to stick out!
yeah but that would have ruined the lines, also if you look the chassis plate is mm exact to the bottom of the bodywork, helps with them rogue cig buts that might throw the suspension up into the arches.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

202 months

Sunday 31st August 2008
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That looks horrible though and ruins the cooling for the engine.