Electric off-road car/buggy advice
Discussion
Assuming a budget of £200 what could I realistically get in the form of an electric off-road car/buggy? This is only novice level, not really for competitive racing (yet). Looking for no smaller than 1/10.
Any good recommended online shops/sellers? I'm probably after a 'bundle' deal to get me started, which I can then start to improve/hop-up later.
Any good recommended online shops/sellers? I'm probably after a 'bundle' deal to get me started, which I can then start to improve/hop-up later.
If you are a beginner I would suggest going for an entry level Schumacher RC car. Plenty of retailers stock them, good value for money, reliable and lots of spares which also are good value.
Start off running standard motors, don't get drawn to a modified class as you'll never be able to improve your driving skill, becuase speed is not all what it's about.
Once you have the kit and it's up and running, take your time in learning to control the car, especially when you drive it coming towards you. If a buggy, find a large park with short grass where you'll be safe and not damage it. If a touring car, look for a large car park that's free for you to use in the evening.
As with anything in life, practice practice and practice. We have all started at the same point, we've all broken endless parts in our quest to get better, so don't panic if you find it hard to control at first, but once you do get the hang of it, you'll enjoy it for years to come.
If you decide to race at a club, find one that is happy to run standard classes and again, don't think you have to be in a modified class to have a great race, somethimes it's quite the opposite.
Enjoy
Start off running standard motors, don't get drawn to a modified class as you'll never be able to improve your driving skill, becuase speed is not all what it's about.
Once you have the kit and it's up and running, take your time in learning to control the car, especially when you drive it coming towards you. If a buggy, find a large park with short grass where you'll be safe and not damage it. If a touring car, look for a large car park that's free for you to use in the evening.
As with anything in life, practice practice and practice. We have all started at the same point, we've all broken endless parts in our quest to get better, so don't panic if you find it hard to control at first, but once you do get the hang of it, you'll enjoy it for years to come.
If you decide to race at a club, find one that is happy to run standard classes and again, don't think you have to be in a modified class to have a great race, somethimes it's quite the opposite.
Enjoy
Presuming you want to buy a brand new car and gear, and it’s best to do so, I’d recommended something like the Team Associated RC10B4 RS. It’s a ready to run kit prebuilt with electrics etc. This will cost around £179 from www.modelsport.co.uk they’re very good and provide excellent advice, I’ve been using them for 16 years.
This is a good basic buggy to work on, and well built so will take crashes. Great fun to mess around with, and ideal for when you want to progress to racing. I haven’t recommended 4wd cars because of the complexity of maintenance
and the cost of them. Here’s a link to the car on the manufacturer’s website: www.rc10.com/ae/b4/kitb4.htm
To race you’re going to need a few tools, a reasonable battery charger more batteries for the car and possibly a car battery to charge these off when outdoors. I’d say more along the lines of £350 when all said and done.
Oh, and here’s a link to the UK’s rc car racing governing body for more general info
www.brca.org/
regards
This is a good basic buggy to work on, and well built so will take crashes. Great fun to mess around with, and ideal for when you want to progress to racing. I haven’t recommended 4wd cars because of the complexity of maintenance
and the cost of them. Here’s a link to the car on the manufacturer’s website: www.rc10.com/ae/b4/kitb4.htm
To race you’re going to need a few tools, a reasonable battery charger more batteries for the car and possibly a car battery to charge these off when outdoors. I’d say more along the lines of £350 when all said and done.
Oh, and here’s a link to the UK’s rc car racing governing body for more general info
www.brca.org/
regards
Edited by Martin TH on Friday 16th February 19:07
My £200 really needs to get me everything I need to be up and running (kit, motor, speed controler, batteries and radio gear). Not after professional level stuff, but defo something to learn on, but will alow me to upgrade later.
Is 4x4 really that much more complecated?
I'm quite not to get RTR and build a kit myself (I'm quite handy with this sort of thing and see the construction as part of the enjoyment).
Is 4x4 really that much more complecated?
I'm quite not to get RTR and build a kit myself (I'm quite handy with this sort of thing and see the construction as part of the enjoyment).
I agree with martin you cant go wrong with Modelsport UK. Im biased though as I used to work there when i was at school 
Everyone really knows there stuff an will be more than happy to give you any info or advice on your choice but ask to speak to either paul or simon as they both used to race 1/10th off road at national level
Modelsport also carry a huge selection of spares for when you inevitabley run out of tallent
Everyone really knows there stuff an will be more than happy to give you any info or advice on your choice but ask to speak to either paul or simon as they both used to race 1/10th off road at national level Modelsport also carry a huge selection of spares for when you inevitabley run out of tallent
2 choices, buy new or buy used.
Benefits:
New.
Warm fuzzy feeling when you open the box.
You know exactly the history of the car.
You can build it as you want it from the start.
Used.
Cheaper.
It has probably already been set up.
Will quite often come as a complete package.
All the work has been done just charge it up and go.
Painting has prob been done.
Disadvantages:
New.
Expensive.
After a week it is a used model anyway.
you have to build/paint it before you use it.
You have to buy all the expensive little bits : batteries, radio, ESC, Motor, Pinions etc.
Used.
It wont feel as nice as a new model, at least not for a while until you feel "it's yours".
It may be damaged.
The painting/parts choice may not be your taste.
Overall I would reccomend cut your budget down to about £75-100 go and buy a good used starter buggy, as a complete package off ebay for example, go to a few meets, be the kid with the slightly uncool car, race and learn to drive it properly as an underdog, possibly win a few races even, then sell it on and buy the model that suits your style that has developed.
A very good starter model is Mardave Cobra, it's old and pretty agricultaral, but they are fairly cheap, VERY tough, bits are cheap, it will always sell on afterwards, and they are pretty competitive.
I started off with a Mardave meteor, it was the model before the cobra, much more primitive and not as competitive but I won some races with it, and when I went on to the Schumacher cougar 2 (it was impressive then ok) I could appreciate the benefits.
But with the exception of that meteor and a mini stock I bought I have never had a new RC car, they have all been cast offs, and all been good competitive models, quickest model I have at the mo is a meteor chassis with cobra running gear, and a 10 turn home made motor, it absolutley flies and corners outstandingly.
Benefits:
New.
Warm fuzzy feeling when you open the box.
You know exactly the history of the car.
You can build it as you want it from the start.
Used.
Cheaper.
It has probably already been set up.
Will quite often come as a complete package.
All the work has been done just charge it up and go.
Painting has prob been done.
Disadvantages:
New.
Expensive.
After a week it is a used model anyway.
you have to build/paint it before you use it.
You have to buy all the expensive little bits : batteries, radio, ESC, Motor, Pinions etc.
Used.
It wont feel as nice as a new model, at least not for a while until you feel "it's yours".
It may be damaged.
The painting/parts choice may not be your taste.
Overall I would reccomend cut your budget down to about £75-100 go and buy a good used starter buggy, as a complete package off ebay for example, go to a few meets, be the kid with the slightly uncool car, race and learn to drive it properly as an underdog, possibly win a few races even, then sell it on and buy the model that suits your style that has developed.
A very good starter model is Mardave Cobra, it's old and pretty agricultaral, but they are fairly cheap, VERY tough, bits are cheap, it will always sell on afterwards, and they are pretty competitive.
I started off with a Mardave meteor, it was the model before the cobra, much more primitive and not as competitive but I won some races with it, and when I went on to the Schumacher cougar 2 (it was impressive then ok) I could appreciate the benefits.
But with the exception of that meteor and a mini stock I bought I have never had a new RC car, they have all been cast offs, and all been good competitive models, quickest model I have at the mo is a meteor chassis with cobra running gear, and a 10 turn home made motor, it absolutley flies and corners outstandingly.
I,m looking to sell my Tamiya Dark Impact if you're interested .
I bought it in October last year and have used it 3 times !! I had a 1/5th scale petrol buggy for xmas so the D.I is not being used and it seems a shame to have it just sitting there .
Right then :
Car is completely standard , comes with black bodyshell , Futaba Attack 40mhz stick controller and receiver , Mabuchi 540 motor .
When you buy a D.I kit , you dont get a speed controller - so I bought an LRP forward/reverse electronic speed controller with a 15 turn motor limit , which will allow you to add a hotter motor at a later date ! Also comes with 1 x 3300 battery which gives pretty good run times .
The tyres are like brand new and there are a couple of minor scuffs on the underside of the chassis and the leading edge of the rear wishbones from where stones have been kicked up (4wd)
If you are looking for a good buggy with great handling , that will allow you to tune it to a very high standard - let me know .
I'm looking for around £150 .
Avoid Team Associated and Losi (same company). They are both far too weak and lightweight for a beginner. I have seen their carbon (plastic) chassis snap clean in half after hitting a kerb. The replacement parts are quite pricey too.
Get something solid and chunky. If possible look for nearly new half price bargains.
Get something solid and chunky. If possible look for nearly new half price bargains.
KUB3 said:
Avoid Team Associated and Losi (same company).
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
My advice - if you want to buld a kit, Tamiya are your only option for under £200, they do several budget buggies of which the Dark Impact (DF-03 chassis) is the best performer.
The Associated buggy mentioned before is a great deal, and will be competitive if you choose to race, but it is pre-assembled.
Thunder Tiger do a decent pre-assembled electric buggy and truck for around £150, it comes from the same factory as the Associated so although the design is different the quality of materials and spec is more or less the same.
I would always recommend a new car if you are a beginner to the hobby. Used cars are more often than not worn out or bodged by the time they get sold on.
sosidge said:
My advice - if you want to buld a kit, Tamiya are your only option for under £200, they do several budget buggies of which the Dark Impact (DF-03 chassis) is the best performer.
I would always recommend a new car if you are a beginner to the hobby. Used cars are more often than not worn out or bodged by the time they get sold on.
I have a Dark Impact for sale if you know anyone
And no , it is definitely not worn out or bodged 
busby said:
sosidge said:
My advice - if you want to buld a kit, Tamiya are your only option for under £200, they do several budget buggies of which the Dark Impact (DF-03 chassis) is the best performer.
I would always recommend a new car if you are a beginner to the hobby. Used cars are more often than not worn out or bodged by the time they get sold on.
I have a Dark Impact for sale if you know anyone
And no , it is definitely not worn out or bodged [pic]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q3[/pi
pm sent
Edited by moreymach on Sunday 18th February 23:30
sosidge said:
KUB3 said:
Avoid Team Associated and Losi (same company).
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
My advice - if you want to buld a kit, Tamiya are your only option for under £200, they do several budget buggies of which the Dark Impact (DF-03 chassis) is the best performer.
The Associated buggy mentioned before is a great deal, and will be competitive if you choose to race, but it is pre-assembled.
Thunder Tiger do a decent pre-assembled electric buggy and truck for around £150, it comes from the same factory as the Associated so although the design is different the quality of materials and spec is more or less the same.
I would always recommend a new car if you are a beginner to the hobby. Used cars are more often than not worn out or bodged by the time they get sold on.
of course the fact you run a business selling new models has nothing to do with it? Let me guess you particularly sell Losi/Associated/thunder tiger?
Not saying anything about those models but they and tamiya's are not reknowned for being robust, which a learner buggy needs to be, it needs to be able to hit a kerbstone flat out and bounce off, needs to be able to fly under a set of railings and not take the rear shock tower off, needs to take a jump and land on its roof/side and not cause damage. Those models won't take that punishment at least not for long, but a good solid used (unbodged) Mardave / Schumacher will.
wildoliver said:
sosidge said:
KUB3 said:
Avoid Team Associated and Losi (same company).
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
My advice - if you want to buld a kit, Tamiya are your only option for under £200, they do several budget buggies of which the Dark Impact (DF-03 chassis) is the best performer.
The Associated buggy mentioned before is a great deal, and will be competitive if you choose to race, but it is pre-assembled.
Thunder Tiger do a decent pre-assembled electric buggy and truck for around £150, it comes from the same factory as the Associated so although the design is different the quality of materials and spec is more or less the same.
I would always recommend a new car if you are a beginner to the hobby. Used cars are more often than not worn out or bodged by the time they get sold on.
of course the fact you run a business selling new models has nothing to do with it? Let me guess you particularly sell Losi/Associated/thunder tiger?
Not saying anything about those models but they and tamiya's are not reknowned for being robust, which a learner buggy needs to be, it needs to be able to hit a kerbstone flat out and bounce off, needs to be able to fly under a set of railings and not take the rear shock tower off, needs to take a jump and land on its roof/side and not cause damage. Those models won't take that punishment at least not for long, but a good solid used (unbodged) Mardave / Schumacher will.
Couldn't agree more. Tamiya models are crap for RC learners. The plastic has no give and you'll be sending a fortune of spare parts.
Schmacher models really are the best for beginners. Easy to following instructions and loads of spares available if you do go a little crazy. I have to admit I had forgotten the old Mardave models. Now there you do have an indestructable model!!! Not the greatest to look at, but probably the best starter bar none.
As for the Associated, please..... this guy is new to RC cars. Yes Associated are bloody good cars but not for a beginner. I used to have the RC10 and it was fantastic, but needed loving care. Would you suggest a guy who's just past his driving test to go and buy a Subaru Impreza or a Ferrari!!!!
This guy wants to get into the RC arena, and he will be pi##ed off pretty quickly with the top end models or a Tamiya that breaks all the time.
Sound advice is go for a Schumachet 2WD buggy or a Mardave and please please please do not fit it with a modified motor. Stick to standard for a couple of years. Once you have mastered the control and plugged yourself into a local club, then you can start to think bigger...
Don't sell Losi, don't sell Associated, don't sell Tamiya so I have no commercial interest in them brands. Put simply they are good value and good performers.
And I have seen SO many people at the clubs buy second hand pieces of crap that they end up spending so much on spares and replacement parts that they may as well have bought new in the first place.
My advice here is actually to try and get people into the great hobby of RC racing. If you think I am just spamming my business you are mistaken, don't think you will find any references to my business anywhere on this site.
And I have seen SO many people at the clubs buy second hand pieces of crap that they end up spending so much on spares and replacement parts that they may as well have bought new in the first place.
My advice here is actually to try and get people into the great hobby of RC racing. If you think I am just spamming my business you are mistaken, don't think you will find any references to my business anywhere on this site.
autoart said:
Sound advice is go for a Schumachet 2WD buggy or a Mardave and please please please do not fit it with a modified motor. Stick to standard for a couple of years. Once you have mastered the control and plugged yourself into a local club, then you can start to think bigger...
You are advising someone to buy a car that is obsolete. Schumacher and Mardave have not made 2wd electric cars for years. Spares are difficult to find if not impossible.
To use your analogy, this is like telling someone to buy a third-user '93 Impreza with mods instead of a 2007 model "because they are tougher". Maybe when they came out of the factory, not after years of use.
Edited by sosidge on Monday 19th February 11:56
pstruck,
just done some searching for you and although it is a 4WD car, this entry level Schumacher buggy come in under £100, with motor and rc equipment installed, even comes with a battery and charger. Although the model is pre-assembled, you will probably be taking it apart to keep it clear anyway, and I'm sure a quick call to the shop to see if it comes with full instructions would go a miss. Can't do much better than that can you, here's the link:
www.modelsinmotion.co.uk/product.asp?productid=18445&catCode=651&tamiya=268
(the link may have tamiya in it - dont ask why - but it points to the Schumacher buggy for you)
Being just £100 give you the extra £100 to maybe buy a couple more battery sticks so your not always waiting to run the car after using up the first one! Plus my advice is to buy a good quality 12Volt battery and mains charger from Halfords to save you having to use your car battery when you head off to the nearest rough bit of land to run around on. The rest will be spent I'm sure on tyres and the odd wishbones in due course.
PS. I have no connection with this company, simply did a little searching for you to help you out - have fun m8
just done some searching for you and although it is a 4WD car, this entry level Schumacher buggy come in under £100, with motor and rc equipment installed, even comes with a battery and charger. Although the model is pre-assembled, you will probably be taking it apart to keep it clear anyway, and I'm sure a quick call to the shop to see if it comes with full instructions would go a miss. Can't do much better than that can you, here's the link:
www.modelsinmotion.co.uk/product.asp?productid=18445&catCode=651&tamiya=268
(the link may have tamiya in it - dont ask why - but it points to the Schumacher buggy for you)
Being just £100 give you the extra £100 to maybe buy a couple more battery sticks so your not always waiting to run the car after using up the first one! Plus my advice is to buy a good quality 12Volt battery and mains charger from Halfords to save you having to use your car battery when you head off to the nearest rough bit of land to run around on. The rest will be spent I'm sure on tyres and the odd wishbones in due course.
PS. I have no connection with this company, simply did a little searching for you to help you out - have fun m8
sosidge said:
autoart said:
Sound advice is go for a Schumachet 2WD buggy or a Mardave and please please please do not fit it with a modified motor. Stick to standard for a couple of years. Once you have mastered the control and plugged yourself into a local club, then you can start to think bigger...
You are advising someone to buy a car that is obsolete. Schumacher and Mardave have not made 2wd electric cars for years. Spares are difficult to find if not impossible.
I will put my hand up, been out of the RC game for a few years, but now realise having just spent a few minutes surfing that the 2WD buggies from Schumacher really a thing of the past - how times have changed!! However I will stand by my views that the Associated and Losi cars of this world are too expensive for a beginner, and that the materials used by Tamiya are of a poor quality to all the others.
Edited by autoart on Monday 19th February 12:03
So what if they are obsolete? The chap is wanting a good starter buggy not the latest shiny model!
As for spares back up it isn't a problem, Shcumacher carry brilliant stocks, ring them up with a credit or debit card and the item is with you next day usually, no messing around trekking round shops, likewise the Mardave Cobra you can still get full spares package for, and they are thinking of relaunching it as I understand, who knows they may already have done so.
Thats before you look at ebay. I can still get most of the bits for my meteor new in packets off there and the model is 20 years old!
I would love to say I had a model the chap could have but I sold most of my kit a few years ago and now just have some classic bits lying around one of which I wouldn't sell and the others would be completely unsuitable.
However I'd consider this buggy autoart has found you he is usually pretty sensible.
As for spares back up it isn't a problem, Shcumacher carry brilliant stocks, ring them up with a credit or debit card and the item is with you next day usually, no messing around trekking round shops, likewise the Mardave Cobra you can still get full spares package for, and they are thinking of relaunching it as I understand, who knows they may already have done so.
Thats before you look at ebay. I can still get most of the bits for my meteor new in packets off there and the model is 20 years old!
I would love to say I had a model the chap could have but I sold most of my kit a few years ago and now just have some classic bits lying around one of which I wouldn't sell and the others would be completely unsuitable.
However I'd consider this buggy autoart has found you he is usually pretty sensible.
There’s a lot on nonsense in this thread.
First off any rc car is going to break when you drive it flat out into a curb, this is hardly a fair assessment of a cars durability. How long till a diff needs rebuilding, or a suspension component fails is a better assessment.
Secondly I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would recommend a Schumacher buggy yet not a Team Associated, In the last 20 years I’ve owned and raced every Schumacher buggy 4wd and 2wd from the Top Cat to the Fireblade evo from the Cat XLS to the 3000, every Team Associated RC10, and pretty much everything from Yokomo and Team Losi (yes, Losi are fragile cars). The RC10s have, in the vast majority of cases, always been tougher, easier to get parts, and easer to set up and drive.
Buying a second hand buggy is a minefield. I’ve found when restoring old cars it often costs me twice as much as it would a new one, because the parts are rare, anyone selling them knows this and charges a premium. And I wouldn’t rely upon the Schumacher site to supply all your parts, products go in and out of stock regularly, I’ve been waiting on a ProCat bodyshell for a year now, they’ve only just got them in. You also don’t truly know the condition of the car, are the diff bearings almond shaped? How are any internal belts and plates, is the chassis slightly bent? It’s difficult to tell, and by the time you’ve replaced any parts you might as well have purchased a new buggy, it’ll be pretty much the same money and at least you can get parts for that.
Why have I not recommended a 4wd buggy? Well, while the Academy buggy linked to above is cheap, and 4wd is easier to drive, but they cost more in the long run. You need better batteries and better motors if you want to race 4wd. You can get away with a budget battery pack in a 2wd, not with 4wd. You also have more parts to maintain a replace when things go wrong, and they will with that Academy, I’ve seen them at the race track leaving after as days racing, in bits.
Provided you want at some point in the future to try racing, I continue to recommended the RC10 rtr it’s a good basic buggy, with all the electrics you need, Tough enough to bash, easy enough to set up and has a great knowledge base of users for help. Don’t worry that it’s pre-built, you’ll be stripping down and rebuilding the thing in no time.
For those that doubt an RC10 can be a good beginners car, read this: www.oople.com/rc/photos/b4wife/
However, rc racing can become very expensive, I normally recommend beginners to start with a budget of 500 to include most things they’ll need and expect to spend 100 a year, or more if they start taking it seriously. If you have a very strict budget and understandably don’t want to spend that much, it might be better to get a fun car such as an e–savage or wheelie king from HPI (www.hpiracing.com). These will always be a bit tougher than anything designed with competition in mind and are often more fun to drive too as the more race orientated stuff can be a little too capable for just messing around with.
Regards
First off any rc car is going to break when you drive it flat out into a curb, this is hardly a fair assessment of a cars durability. How long till a diff needs rebuilding, or a suspension component fails is a better assessment.
Secondly I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would recommend a Schumacher buggy yet not a Team Associated, In the last 20 years I’ve owned and raced every Schumacher buggy 4wd and 2wd from the Top Cat to the Fireblade evo from the Cat XLS to the 3000, every Team Associated RC10, and pretty much everything from Yokomo and Team Losi (yes, Losi are fragile cars). The RC10s have, in the vast majority of cases, always been tougher, easier to get parts, and easer to set up and drive.
Buying a second hand buggy is a minefield. I’ve found when restoring old cars it often costs me twice as much as it would a new one, because the parts are rare, anyone selling them knows this and charges a premium. And I wouldn’t rely upon the Schumacher site to supply all your parts, products go in and out of stock regularly, I’ve been waiting on a ProCat bodyshell for a year now, they’ve only just got them in. You also don’t truly know the condition of the car, are the diff bearings almond shaped? How are any internal belts and plates, is the chassis slightly bent? It’s difficult to tell, and by the time you’ve replaced any parts you might as well have purchased a new buggy, it’ll be pretty much the same money and at least you can get parts for that.
Why have I not recommended a 4wd buggy? Well, while the Academy buggy linked to above is cheap, and 4wd is easier to drive, but they cost more in the long run. You need better batteries and better motors if you want to race 4wd. You can get away with a budget battery pack in a 2wd, not with 4wd. You also have more parts to maintain a replace when things go wrong, and they will with that Academy, I’ve seen them at the race track leaving after as days racing, in bits.
Provided you want at some point in the future to try racing, I continue to recommended the RC10 rtr it’s a good basic buggy, with all the electrics you need, Tough enough to bash, easy enough to set up and has a great knowledge base of users for help. Don’t worry that it’s pre-built, you’ll be stripping down and rebuilding the thing in no time.
For those that doubt an RC10 can be a good beginners car, read this: www.oople.com/rc/photos/b4wife/
However, rc racing can become very expensive, I normally recommend beginners to start with a budget of 500 to include most things they’ll need and expect to spend 100 a year, or more if they start taking it seriously. If you have a very strict budget and understandably don’t want to spend that much, it might be better to get a fun car such as an e–savage or wheelie king from HPI (www.hpiracing.com). These will always be a bit tougher than anything designed with competition in mind and are often more fun to drive too as the more race orientated stuff can be a little too capable for just messing around with.
Regards
Your missing the point Martin.
This guy is a beginner. I have raced RC10's for many years and my old favourite the Lazer from Kyosho that was 4WD and bullit proof. Only ever bought 1 new set of wishbones and it was raced off-road twice weekly back in the good old days, as well as being thrashed over ramps and kurbs at home.
However, I used to run two RC clubs a few years back now, one off-road and one indoor. We always suggested to new comers to go for a Schumacher and as I can remember now the Mardave Meteor (OK some may not be available today but the principle is the same). We did this because we didn't want kids or adults spending a fortune only to find they didn't like it after a couple of months.
As for a budget of £500???? Well if you will suggest Losi and Associate products I can understand. Let the guy who originally posted read all the comments and make his own mind up, but please don't make him think he needs to spend £500 to go racing, be it in his back garden or at a local club.
I remember very well at the clubs I ran that there were several people would spend a fortune on their hobby, and I mean a fortune. Did it make them a better driver NO WAY. Money doesn't breed passion and skill in the hobby of RC cars and never will...
This guy is a beginner. I have raced RC10's for many years and my old favourite the Lazer from Kyosho that was 4WD and bullit proof. Only ever bought 1 new set of wishbones and it was raced off-road twice weekly back in the good old days, as well as being thrashed over ramps and kurbs at home.
However, I used to run two RC clubs a few years back now, one off-road and one indoor. We always suggested to new comers to go for a Schumacher and as I can remember now the Mardave Meteor (OK some may not be available today but the principle is the same). We did this because we didn't want kids or adults spending a fortune only to find they didn't like it after a couple of months.
As for a budget of £500???? Well if you will suggest Losi and Associate products I can understand. Let the guy who originally posted read all the comments and make his own mind up, but please don't make him think he needs to spend £500 to go racing, be it in his back garden or at a local club.
I remember very well at the clubs I ran that there were several people would spend a fortune on their hobby, and I mean a fortune. Did it make them a better driver NO WAY. Money doesn't breed passion and skill in the hobby of RC cars and never will...
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