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ZR1cliff

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Friday 2nd December 2005
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The other day i went in search of ideas and standards,i know my own modeling standards whilst high are maybe not as high as some,so i paid a visit to a few shops in my town to get ideas.

One of the shops i visited was the local "Gamesworkshop" ,and looking at some of the figures on display made me marvel at the standard i would like to reach,the detail was amazing and i could see how far i have yet to go in my painting.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/thelordoftherings/paint

I did learn they do painting worshop classes for anyone that wants to learn,as for me i have no tips ,just keep on practising,and one of the hardest jobs ive come up against is painting white walls on a wheel/tyre smaller than a 5p bit.

As you can see ive not yet perfected it,but as they say "practise makes perfect".

Carrera2

8,352 posts

239 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Is that a fairground lorry?

nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

269 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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are you using acrylic or enamel paints? I'm going to take a big step here and admit that i collect and paint GW miniatures. I take (depending on what i'm painting) anywhere between 3-12 hours painting one figure, and even then my results are nothing in comparison to the real good stuff.

Anyway back to the point in question, try using a grey colour as a base coat the build up to white, this will help give shading. however this will probably be harder to achive if you use enamel paints, compared to acrylics.

But definitely try the paint class at GW they'd probably be very helpful, althoug they might want you to buy some figures first. And they might also geek you to death tbh they are usually really friendly people who are just very enthusiastic about there hobby/job.

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>> Edited by nuclearsquash on Monday 5th December 15:49

ZR1cliff

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Carrera2 said:
Is that a fairground lorry?


Yes,its based on this "Stevens" funfair lorry reg no SX 6347 AEC "Swirl Load lorry" and trailer, circa mid 60's...i am building two scales 1/50 (working) and 1/76 (still)




In this photo you can see the start of the 1/76 scale,everything in yellow and Orange is "Stevens" of Chertsey,and the dark red is of "Edwards"of Swindon, ive just got to do more detail to the Stevens equipment using transfers,glass,painting etc to finish.

The Edwards equipment was bought like it is but i am going to detail that as well,and perhaps create a mixed fair scene like the Nottingham Goose fair.

If anyone has any imformation on "Stevens" funfair i would be grateful as it would aid my research,thanks.

ZR1cliff

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Monday 5th December 2005
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nuclearsquash said:
are you using acrylic or enamel paints? I'm going to take a big step here and admit that i collect and paint GW miniatures. I take (depending on what i'm painting) anywhere between 3-12 hours painting one figure, and even then my results are nothing in comparison to the real good stuff.

Anyway back to the point in question, try using a grey colour as a base coat the build up to white, this will help give shading. however this will probably be harder to achive if you use enamel paints, compared to acrylics.

But definitely try the paint class at GW they'd probably be very helpful, althoug they might want you to buy some figures first. And they might also geek you to death tbh they are usually really friendly people who are just very enthusiastic about there hobby/job.

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>> Edited by nuclearsquash on Monday 5th December 15:49


At the moment i am using Revell enamal gloss paints with a brush ,but i might look to either using matt paints with laquer or even be adventourous and try an airbrush.

I might give the class a go and risk the geeking...no second thoughts ile geek them out
They are very helpful people ive found.

>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Monday 5th December 17:50

ZR1cliff

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Tuesday 13th December 2005
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Been working on some more detail,still loads more to do but as you can see from the pic the oil drum with white tyre paint on the end is there ,plus ive been working on a set of bumper cars for the other model and have given them a metalic paint job,ive put one on the back of the truck.

yertis

18,678 posts

273 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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My wife loves your models ZR! She asked me to show her more of them but I couldn't find pics.

This is disconcerting because she maintains healthy scorn for my "spaccy Airfix-ation", as she calls it.

ZR1cliff

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Wednesday 14th December 2005
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yertis said:
My wife loves your models ZR! She asked me to show her more of them but I couldn't find pics.

This is disconcerting because she maintains healthy scorn for my "spaccy Airfix-ation", as she calls it.



Thanks yertis,ive got to build this lot in both scales yet so there will be plenty more photos.



Here are the smaller 1/76 scale bumper cars,i paint them mettalic using silver first then a coloured clear coat,still some detail to be added.



Here is the first of the larger 1/50 scale,the truck pulling is one that ive modified from an 8 wheeler to this unique design of a specialy modified truck reg no 329 RBH,i am going to make the moulds for the rear thats yet to be fitted,it also needs the interior and transfers to detail.



Here is what 329 RBH Looked like in real life.



>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Wednesday 14th December 12:40

ZR1cliff

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Monday 16th January 2006
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ZR1cliff said:
Here is a similar type model on ebay,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CORGI-SHOWMANS-FAIRGROUND-ERF-


Unbelievable,that model went for nearly £70
Mind you he is a good die cast model maker.

ZR1cliff

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Thursday 19th January 2006
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los angeles said:
Very nice, Cliff. Is that the real, original livery?


Yes, Joe Stevens purchased the funfair from a well known Circus(D'oh cant think of the name now lol) and changed the colours to Orange and yellow,mainly with white wall tyres.

Edited to say it was "Billy Smarts" ,hi LA and thanks

>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Thursday 19th January 03:50

ZR1cliff

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Thursday 19th January 2006
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los angeles said:
I take it the full historical and monetary value lies in creating the entire range of trucks, loaders and the actual fun fair? Is that what you're aiming for? And do you search for real posters and other collectables from the shows, or just anything model size on wheels?


One of my aims is to build a fully self sufficient 1/50 scale funfair layout with rides like this 1/50 scale ride which has variable speed with the horses going up and down with its own lighting,they will be run by the same scale steam engines charging dynamos to provide electricity for each ride.

Ime not really doing it for the value but such pieces do change hands for big money seperately,the ride in the photo will probably go for around £100.

I will build a lot of my own fair rides working from the video (but will look out for posters and books,maybe look into towns carnival photos),probably out of wood first then once ive built the peices right,i will copy them using white metal,ideally i would like to make it so it breaks down on to its own transport as in real life,for added detail....now that is a challenge.



>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Thursday 19th January 04:08

Eric Mc

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Thursday 19th January 2006
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I think £100 is very low too - although, in the end, there is no "correct" price for a finished model, it will depend on what type of demand there is for such a rare model. As a guide, professionaly assembled 1/43 racing car kits which retail in kit form between £30 to £60, often sell for £200 to £400.

ZR1cliff

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Thursday 19th January 2006
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On reflection you guys could be right on the price,ile let you know when the auction ends.