My first Hornby set - old!

My first Hornby set - old!

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BREMBOV6

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510 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Never owned a Hornby trainset before. Oddly enough watched a video about them only yesterday then today a neighbour was throwing out a bag which appears to be a Hornby 41st Edition trainset. Everything appears to be present.

However I do not have a clue about these. It does seem to work although it is rather slow and seems to require a slight push or push down on the train or a wiggle/push down on the track it's self.

Any points or advise on what can be done or worthwhile replacing parts?

It has been sitting for 25yrs! It did come with what looks like a rubber which I've used to clean the tracks and that seemed to make a little difference.

The neighbour also had a few trainsets, some boxed some not. I have pictured these, he's looking for £50. Again not having a clue does that seem reasonable?

Many thanks!



The above is £50






hairy v

1,274 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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This will give you a good idea of the inner workings:


droopsnoot

12,448 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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From what I've seen at the local place that has second-hand model railway stuff, usually £30+ for a loco, £8-odd for a carriage, £4-odd for freight wagons, so that probably adds up to £50, sometimes boxed will add value, and I don't know if that Scotsman is any kind of special edition that might make it more valuable. I don't really buy stuff at proper values, only if I see it really cheap, so I may be a bit out of date.

James May was in the recent Pete Waterman series showing how he strips down old locos to clean various bits and make them run better, I think it was the fourth episode. If it's been standing it's probably just dirt around the various contacts.

Edited by droopsnoot on Wednesday 22 November 09:20

spitfire-ian

3,882 posts

233 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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If the track is 25 years old it's likely to be the old steel stuff which will be pretty much useless now as it corrodes.


BREMBOV6

Original Poster:

510 posts

153 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Thanks all!

Jo-say8k

106 posts

21 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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White spirit and 2000 grit for the track, if you get a section polished and the contacts cleaned for the power supply, then white spirit again for the metal loco wheels it will make a world of difference!

Rich1973

1,208 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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The rubber thing is specifically a track rubber. You should be able to get the track nice and shiny with it, which is the condition you need to aim for.
A couple of pieces of wire will allow you to power the loco directly from the track to the motor contacts allow you to get things moving. You might need some very thin oil to very lightly lubricate the motor gear.
A fibre pencil can also be very handy for cleaning the wheels and electrical contacts.
Most likely it only needs a bit of tlc.
You haven't been robbed at £50.

W124Bob

1,761 posts

180 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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Pop into your local Smiths and pick up a couple of the model railway magazines, you might find a retailer close to home. If nothing else it'll give you ideas, the one thing I might do is buy a modern control. Look at this https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/gaugemaster-gmc-... shop around ,that's a bit pricey. Peters Spares is excellent for all the bits. Ebay is very good for older Triang/Hornby stuff as well. For track, Peco Set Track, Hornby and Bachmann all have the same standards and is interchangeable. Railway Modeller has a good classified section and a swap meet and exhibition calendar, for advice and chat try RMweb.

W124Bob

1,761 posts

180 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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One word of warning,do not use any oil other than specialist model locomotive ones, this is good, cheap .Hattons are nearly always worth a look for anything model railway related. They've been around years and are now based out near Liverpool airport.
https://www.hattons.co.uk/504023/hattons_essential...

popegregory

1,509 posts

139 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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That looks like a fairly rare Scotsman so should be worth a few quid. All that stuff looks eighties / early nineties (when I was a kid and had a train set) but they haven’t changed it massively since. Get down the rabbit hole smile

Edited by popegregory on Saturday 25th November 12:12

velocemitch

3,838 posts

225 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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popegregory said:
That looks like a fairly rare Scotsman so should be worth a few quid. All that stuff looks eighties / early nineties (when I was a kid and had a train set) but they haven’t changed it massively since. Get down the rabbit hole smile

Edited by popegregory on Saturday 25th November 12:12
I think you might find they have changed it massively since!
The latest ready to run stuff is a big step up from that era.

People still pay good money for the older stuff though.

Simpo Two

86,553 posts

270 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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velocemitch said:
popegregory said:
That looks like a fairly rare Scotsman so should be worth a few quid. All that stuff looks eighties / early nineties (when I was a kid and had a train set) but they haven’t changed it massively since. Get down the rabbit hole smile

Edited by popegregory on Saturday 25th November 12:12
I think you might find they have changed it massively since!
The latest ready to run stuff is a big step up from that era.
I had a Flying Scotsman in the 1970s. IIRC it was 'ready to run'. How more ready to run can a version made this year be, apart from the fact it's Chinese?

popegregory

1,509 posts

139 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Simpo Two said:
How more ready to run can a version made this year be, apart from the fact it's Chinese?
The box now comes with a replacement bus service inside smile

Panamax

4,672 posts

39 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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popegregory said:
The box now comes with a replacement bus service inside smile
That's good. That's very good!

miniman

25,844 posts

267 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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My first set was this, still have most of it.


velocemitch

3,838 posts

225 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Simpo Two said:
velocemitch said:
popegregory said:
That looks like a fairly rare Scotsman so should be worth a few quid. All that stuff looks eighties / early nineties (when I was a kid and had a train set) but they haven’t changed it massively since. Get down the rabbit hole smile

Edited by popegregory on Saturday 25th November 12:12
I think you might find they have changed it massively since!
The latest ready to run stuff is a big step up from that era.
I had a Flying Scotsman in the 1970s. IIRC it was 'ready to run'. How more ready to run can a version made this year be, apart from the fact it's Chinese?
Ready to run much smoother, far more accurate and a level of detail which seemed impossible for something off the shelf back then. Far more expensive too!

https://uk.hornby.com/products/hornby-dublo-lner-a...