Models as investments?
Discussion
Firstly, I’ve started visiting this thread as reading up on, and looking on at the models on here is like a soothing stress relieving balm in these crazy times. There are some stunningly skilled people here.
I don’t want to offend anyone with my topic. I’ve fallen in love with this stunning weathered limited edition Porsche 917 model from the amalgam collection (hopefully not a limited edition of ‘as many as we can sell’).
https://www.amalgamcollection.com/collections/pors...
Now, if my wife finds out I’ve spend £1k on a model she will freak out. But if I can make an argument it’s an investment that can be part of my pension then that’s prob ok with just a few nights sleeping in the shed. But I wondered if these type of models are collectible and do go up in value?
I don’t want to offend anyone with my topic. I’ve fallen in love with this stunning weathered limited edition Porsche 917 model from the amalgam collection (hopefully not a limited edition of ‘as many as we can sell’).
https://www.amalgamcollection.com/collections/pors...
Now, if my wife finds out I’ve spend £1k on a model she will freak out. But if I can make an argument it’s an investment that can be part of my pension then that’s prob ok with just a few nights sleeping in the shed. But I wondered if these type of models are collectible and do go up in value?
Edited by jon-yprpe on Wednesday 21st October 20:02
So its $400 over the standard for the weathering? I'd do that for £200, I'd even apply dirt on the bits of the windscreen not reached by the wipers (a key feature missing from a "handpainted/weathered by experts" model surely?)
As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
As you can guess I am looking at this from a modeller's point of view rather than someone who can afford an ornament like that.
If you like it buy it, but I wouldnt as an investment. The world is full of cabinets full of diecast models waiting to be sold at a profit.
As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
As you can guess I am looking at this from a modeller's point of view rather than someone who can afford an ornament like that.
If you like it buy it, but I wouldnt as an investment. The world is full of cabinets full of diecast models waiting to be sold at a profit.
Edited by The_Jackal on Wednesday 21st October 20:17
The_Jackal said:
So its $400 over the standard for the weathering? I'd do that for £200, I'd even apply dirt on the bits of the windscreen not reached by the wipers (a key feature missing from a "handpainted/weathered by experts" model surely?)
As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
As you can guess I am looking at this from a modeller's point of view rather than someone who can afford an ornament like that.
If you like it buy it, but I wouldnt as an investment. The world is full of cabinets full of diecast models waiting to be sold at a profit.
Agreed.As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
As you can guess I am looking at this from a modeller's point of view rather than someone who can afford an ornament like that.
If you like it buy it, but I wouldnt as an investment. The world is full of cabinets full of diecast models waiting to be sold at a profit.
Edited by The_Jackal on Wednesday 21st October 20:17
Buy because you like it, not because you expect it to be an investment.
This company had a wonderful display at the Classic LeMans many years ago and I spent ages looking at the various models they had on display. The detail work on the bigger models was as amazing as the eye watering prices.
As others have said, I'd be tempted to buy because it was a model something I really liked or owned, as to whether it would be an investment I have my doubts.
For instance I started to collect Corgi Lotus models back in the 80's after seeing a massive collection a Lotus dealer had accumulated, all of my collection are mint and boxed and my 40 odd cars have only really quadrupled in value over that time.
As others have said, I'd be tempted to buy because it was a model something I really liked or owned, as to whether it would be an investment I have my doubts.
For instance I started to collect Corgi Lotus models back in the 80's after seeing a massive collection a Lotus dealer had accumulated, all of my collection are mint and boxed and my 40 odd cars have only really quadrupled in value over that time.
Edited by BIRMA on Wednesday 21st October 21:19
The_Jackal said:
So its $400 over the standard for the weathering? I'd do that for £200, I'd even apply dirt on the bits of the windscreen not reached by the wipers (a key feature missing from a "handpainted/weathered by experts" model surely?)
As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
To be fair I don’t think they used wipers at all, unless of course it rained - clearing debris like that in those days just smeared it and made things worse. More likely the whole screen was thoroughly cleaned at every pit stop.As above, its only an investment if someone is will to pay loads in the future. There's no way you can predict that. Unless they are all sold out already and you can sell it for an instant profit, Just buy it as an expensive display item that you like.
As above. if it is just a kerbside model, that price really is just because they can get away with it.
I found another reference and it showed opening doors and engine cover, but didn’t show the engine detail - not that that would make it much of a better investment IMO. I’m surprised they ask people for so much money based on so few images, unless there’s more info somewhere else.
I have sold many models at a really good profit - however none of them were originally bought as an investment. I just collected what appealed to me at the time, the rest was just pot luck. I've sold just as many that made a loss, although admittedly I'm slightly ahead, although £1.200 over a period of 35 years (representing over 300 items) isn't amazing one must agree!
The older a model is, the more chance of a good return, but to be honest, it's better to just forget the profit motive, and collect what you enjoy collecting.
(Guitars, on the other hand .. )
The older a model is, the more chance of a good return, but to be honest, it's better to just forget the profit motive, and collect what you enjoy collecting.
(Guitars, on the other hand .. )
allegerita said:
“The Porsche 917K Daytona 1970 Race Weathered Edition at 1:18 scale is limited to just 100 editions.”
At a rate of 100 cars per edition that makes 100 x 100 = 10,000 cars. Hardly unique, provided they achieve selling those 10,000
That can't be right. surely the total number is 100? At a rate of 100 cars per edition that makes 100 x 100 = 10,000 cars. Hardly unique, provided they achieve selling those 10,000
dr_gn said:
Zoon said:
Finding a seller when you need to release the funds is going to be the issue.
Wouldn't the O/P be the seller? That's the easy bit!dr_gn said:
allegerita said:
“The Porsche 917K Daytona 1970 Race Weathered Edition at 1:18 scale is limited to just 100 editions.”
At a rate of 100 cars per edition that makes 100 x 100 = 10,000 cars. Hardly unique, provided they achieve selling those 10,000
That can't be right. surely the total number is 100? At a rate of 100 cars per edition that makes 100 x 100 = 10,000 cars. Hardly unique, provided they achieve selling those 10,000
allegerita said:
An edition is a batch of cars, rather than 1 individual car isn’t it? I am not native English but that is how I read it.
The "race weathered" is presumably an "edition" of thier 917 range, and they'll make 100 of them. That's how I read it. 10,000 off would be pushing the "limited" definition beyond breaking point IMO.
dr_gn said:
allegerita said:
An edition is a batch of cars, rather than 1 individual car isn’t it? I am not native English but that is how I read it.
The "race weathered" is presumably an "edition" of thier 917 range, and they'll make 100 of them. That's how I read it. 10,000 off would be pushing the "limited" definition beyond breaking point IMO.
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