Sub-C NIMH battery cells for RC

Sub-C NIMH battery cells for RC

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lufbramatt

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141 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Want to get my old 1/10th RC touring cars back up and running. Might treat myself to some new radio gear and batteries.

Both my cars use 7.2v saddle pack battery packs (3 cells each side of the chassis with a link cable between them. All my old battery packs are 20 year old NiCad packs and wont hold a charge so want to get hold of a couple of sets of 3000mah nimh cells.

back in the day you could buy boxes of 6 cells to make up into the right shape but this doesn't seem to be a thing any more- all the non-lipo batteries come as Tamiya shape stick packs.

Any ideas for sourcing bare cells?

r159

2,326 posts

81 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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RS Components do individual c cell in both flavours

lufbramatt

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Monday 6th April 2020
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Do RS sell to the public now? thought they were trade only.

Reminded me of CPC Farnell though, they have 3800mah cells in stock thumbup

lufbramatt

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Thanks for the links, useful stuff there. Serves me right for using Bing.

dr_gn

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191 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Just put a similar post about using NiMH packs for my 1983 Frog.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

How about these:

https://www.overlander.co.uk/2-3-af-1600mah-7-2v-s...

Same make as what I've got for my son's MAd Bull, but NiMH rather than NiCd. Same voltage but 3x the capacity. Apparently they'll work fine.

lufbramatt

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Monday 6th April 2020
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Yes that's the right layout but only 1600mah, will last about 5 mins if I'm lucky with the motor I've got in it. 2000mah nicads used to last about 6-7 mins, which was fine for 5 min races smile

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

204 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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lufbramatt said:
Thanks for the links, useful stuff there. Serves me right for using Bing.
I wont argue with you there lol

r159

2,326 posts

81 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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lufbramatt said:
Do RS sell to the public now? thought they were trade only.

Reminded me of CPC Farnell though, they have 3800mah cells in stock thumbup
I’ve used them over the last 25 years with a personal account.


ferrisbueller

29,791 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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lufbramatt said:
Want to get my old 1/10th RC touring cars back up and running. Might treat myself to some new radio gear and batteries.

Both my cars use 7.2v saddle pack battery packs (3 cells each side of the chassis with a link cable between them. All my old battery packs are 20 year old NiCad packs and wont hold a charge so want to get hold of a couple of sets of 3000mah nimh cells.

back in the day you could buy boxes of 6 cells to make up into the right shape but this doesn't seem to be a thing any more- all the non-lipo batteries come as Tamiya shape stick packs.

Any ideas for sourcing bare cells?
I think you can go up to 5000mAh on NiMh. Our very own Russy would be a decent place to start, he has some listed https://www.jadlamracingmodels.com/overlander-5000...

It's not hard to convert stick packs to saddles with a few of the necessary tabs and a few minutes with a soldering iron (once back in the day I did get a pack in which the tabs between the cells were long enough to form the saddles with no soldering).

lufbramatt

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Monday 6th April 2020
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Yes I remember converting sticks to saddles years ago, remember occasionally the tab wouldn’t come off cleanly where it was spot welded to the cell and you’d have to clean up the terminal. Just wanted minimum faff really! I can re use all the old connectors from my old packs I think.

One of the links above has yuasa 3300 cells at a good price so might go for them.

clockworks

6,111 posts

152 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Why not just use a pair of 1s LiPos? From what I remember you can get 5000mAH packs that are designed to replace saddle packs

lufbramatt

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Monday 6th April 2020
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Presumably I’d need another charger and fire bag, and I’m not sure if my esc would support lipo batteries. Kids around so don’t want the fire risk.

clockworks

6,111 posts

152 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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LiPo chargers are quite cheap, and the fire risk is negligible if you charge them at the recommended rate.
The packs designed for RC cars have a hard shell, so no risk of physical damage.

The only difference between LiPo and non-LiPo ESCs is the low voltage cutoff. You can buy plugin low voltage alarms for a couple of quid

lufbramatt

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Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Thanks, I'll have a read up. I've just bought a half decent nimh peak charger to go with my son's birthday present which is what got me thinking about resurrecting my old cars - hence wanting to stay with nimh… I'm very wary of project scope creep!

clockworks

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152 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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I use these chargers:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iMAX-B6AC-80W-LiFe-Lipo...

They make 2 different versions, one that needs an external power supply, and one that has the power supply built in.

Decent chargers, programmable for pretty much every type of rechargeable battery. There are other models on sale that use the same electronics in different cases.

Hard cased 1s LiPo, BRCA approved apparently, so should be safe:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-7V-4800mAh-6700mAh-1s...

lufbramatt

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Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Thanks that’s really useful.

Sadly would appear that all the local rc clubs that I used to race at have disappeared so not even sure where I’d run them now :-/

Best track was one that a farmer made in one of his fields near Canterbury but can’t even see where it used to be on google earth now.

lufbramatt

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Thursday 16th April 2020
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Well after having thought about it and realised how much money I'm saving on fuel I decided to shelve the touring car idea (can't find any clubs locally to race them without investing heavily in stock motors and tyres) and just buy myself an offroad buggy instead smile

Will report back with a build thread....