Best rc lipo basher
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Hi,
My son wants a new rc car. He had a tamiya dark impact which was fitted with a brushless motor and lipo set up and ran really well but the gearboxes struggle with all the power and wear out quick.
What should we buy next, I like the look of the axial wrath, but it’s not really a high speed basher as far as I see, more slow speed rock crawler.
Any advise appreciated? Ideally we would like a kit build but not critical.
Many thanks
My son wants a new rc car. He had a tamiya dark impact which was fitted with a brushless motor and lipo set up and ran really well but the gearboxes struggle with all the power and wear out quick.
What should we buy next, I like the look of the axial wrath, but it’s not really a high speed basher as far as I see, more slow speed rock crawler.
Any advise appreciated? Ideally we would like a kit build but not critical.
Many thanks
Fit a 3S battery & high KV brushless and the Wraith is a quite capable rough terrain high speed basher - its not called a rock racer for nothing. With a sensored motor it can also crawl quite convincingly. Its getting to be quite an old design though, and does need a lot of upgrades to get the best out of it.
Since stepping back from model building ive concentrated on rc for my grandson and me. Its a great hobby and loads of fun.
For what its worth, about 8 months ago i purchased a FTX Carnage brushless + double cooling fan for the motor to use 5S battery,lipo battery charger and conditioner,wheelie bar, all spares available from modelsport or wheelspin models, upgradable parts as well.
The positives: Very fast on 3s much faster on 5s,adjustable suspension, easy to clean, great to jump.easy to strip down,spare parts quite affordable ,attracts spectators and dogs chase them so be aware of your surroundings,you wouldnt want to crash this into a dog or person at 40+ kph
The Negatives (easily sorted)
Lipo batteries are potentially dangerous , keep them in a steel box, always disconnect the main cable when not in use
Rear dogbones do fly off then traction lost, remedy purchased dogbones from E site with intergral wheel hubshaft to keep them on the car.
Drive gear strips easily, remedy using programme card adjust intial acceleration, purchased hardened gear and pinion
Body posts snap, remedy added 2 more bolts to shock tower to holes already there or you can upgrade the parts.
Body is thin and weak, breaks easily if crashed or rolled but that was mostly due to lack of skill (tip cut off the excess posts protruding from the bodywork.
Since making a few changes we enjoy this hobby very much its great fun. I spray silicone dry lubricant onto the wishbones, suspension and drive shafts every time we go out to keep things lubricated and helps to clean up easily after.Since making a few changes i havent had to purchase much and enjoying this hobby very much. Building a carbon version at present to race with my grandson as a project.
I would assume the issues i found would be the same or similar if you went down other routes, trust this helps. Cheers
For what its worth, about 8 months ago i purchased a FTX Carnage brushless + double cooling fan for the motor to use 5S battery,lipo battery charger and conditioner,wheelie bar, all spares available from modelsport or wheelspin models, upgradable parts as well.
The positives: Very fast on 3s much faster on 5s,adjustable suspension, easy to clean, great to jump.easy to strip down,spare parts quite affordable ,attracts spectators and dogs chase them so be aware of your surroundings,you wouldnt want to crash this into a dog or person at 40+ kph
The Negatives (easily sorted)
Lipo batteries are potentially dangerous , keep them in a steel box, always disconnect the main cable when not in use
Rear dogbones do fly off then traction lost, remedy purchased dogbones from E site with intergral wheel hubshaft to keep them on the car.
Drive gear strips easily, remedy using programme card adjust intial acceleration, purchased hardened gear and pinion
Body posts snap, remedy added 2 more bolts to shock tower to holes already there or you can upgrade the parts.
Body is thin and weak, breaks easily if crashed or rolled but that was mostly due to lack of skill (tip cut off the excess posts protruding from the bodywork.
Since making a few changes we enjoy this hobby very much its great fun. I spray silicone dry lubricant onto the wishbones, suspension and drive shafts every time we go out to keep things lubricated and helps to clean up easily after.Since making a few changes i havent had to purchase much and enjoying this hobby very much. Building a carbon version at present to race with my grandson as a project.
I would assume the issues i found would be the same or similar if you went down other routes, trust this helps. Cheers
jetbox said:
Thanks for all the replies so far, much appreciated and very helpful
No max budget really just want the best for the job
Traxxis is about £550, cheaper would be nice but no big issue as long as it’s value and robust
Cheers
I've just bought the 6 wheel drive AMG by Traxxas (from Germany cheaper than most) superb bit of kit so I would say Traxxas are pretty good.No max budget really just want the best for the job
Traxxis is about £550, cheaper would be nice but no big issue as long as it’s value and robust
Cheers
Forgot to mention there is an enormous amount of content about Traxxas on Youtube I spent a good few hours browsing before buying.
Edited by BIRMA on Monday 20th January 10:00
Another vote for Traxxas here, I got my son a brushed Rustler Christmas 2018. If you want to go straight for brushless then the VXL version would make sense.
It's been really tough and immensely upgradable when his pocket money allows with really good part availability through a couple of UK outlets including wheelspin models.
It's now running brushless on 2s and has loads of upgraded suspension parts - the gearbox was designed with brushless upgrade in mind and seems to be coping absolutely fine.
Really good waterproofing and seems to survive all sorts of impacts, plus, even with the 2wd version he has, it runs well on a wide range of surfaces.
It's been really tough and immensely upgradable when his pocket money allows with really good part availability through a couple of UK outlets including wheelspin models.
It's now running brushless on 2s and has loads of upgraded suspension parts - the gearbox was designed with brushless upgrade in mind and seems to be coping absolutely fine.
Really good waterproofing and seems to survive all sorts of impacts, plus, even with the 2wd version he has, it runs well on a wide range of surfaces.
I got a Arrma krayton 4s a few weeks ago. Ready to run out of the box.
I haven’t had an RC car for about 25 years and just fancied one.
It’s tough and fast. The battery duration is woeful! About 7 minutes on WOT with a 5000mah pack. I’ve since bought 3 more batteries from Bangood which have yet to arrive. Hopefully they’ll give me about 40 minutes run time. If it wasn’t for two dogs who come with me over the park I’d feel like a right tit!
I haven’t had an RC car for about 25 years and just fancied one.
It’s tough and fast. The battery duration is woeful! About 7 minutes on WOT with a 5000mah pack. I’ve since bought 3 more batteries from Bangood which have yet to arrive. Hopefully they’ll give me about 40 minutes run time. If it wasn’t for two dogs who come with me over the park I’d feel like a right tit!
The Axial Bomber makes a better basher than the Wraith because of the trailing arm rear suspension, the Wraith is more of a crawler.
The Bomber is based on Randy Slawson's King of the Hammers race buggy, the definition of off road bashing in real life!
You'll need a roll bar on the rear to improve stability but the Bomber makes a versatile RC buggy, it crawls well and can cover ground quickly too.
The Bomber is based on Randy Slawson's King of the Hammers race buggy, the definition of off road bashing in real life!
You'll need a roll bar on the rear to improve stability but the Bomber makes a versatile RC buggy, it crawls well and can cover ground quickly too.
qooqiiu said:
I got a Arrma krayton 4s a few weeks ago. Ready to run out of the box.
I haven’t had an RC car for about 25 years and just fancied one.
It’s tough and fast. The battery duration is woeful! About 7 minutes on WOT with a 5000mah pack. I’ve since bought 3 more batteries from Bangood which have yet to arrive. Hopefully they’ll give me about 40 minutes run time. If it wasn’t for two dogs who come with me over the park I’d feel like a right tit!
I bought an Arrma Typhon 6S last summer for exactly the same reason.I haven’t had an RC car for about 25 years and just fancied one.
It’s tough and fast. The battery duration is woeful! About 7 minutes on WOT with a 5000mah pack. I’ve since bought 3 more batteries from Bangood which have yet to arrive. Hopefully they’ll give me about 40 minutes run time. If it wasn’t for two dogs who come with me over the park I’d feel like a right tit!
It's absolutely amazing what a £400 RTR car can do compared to what I was used to/expected.
I did replace the radio gear, but nothing else. I get about 15 minutes from a 5000mah lipo which is plenty for me. I also feel a bit of an idiot using it at my age with no kids present, so a longer run would be out of the question. Great fun, though.
I went to Modelsport to buy an Arrma Kraton or Notorious (Kraton is more stable, Notorious better for mid air tricks) but the guy there talked me into the Maxx. Said he had a Kraton and had just got the Maxx and the Maxx was the buggy to go for. Said the Arrma are strong but not like the Maxx.
If I had one buggy then it would not be the Maxx nor Notorious, would be the Losi firat choice then Arrma Krayton 6S.
If I had one buggy then it would not be the Maxx nor Notorious, would be the Losi firat choice then Arrma Krayton 6S.
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