Paper cover for Spitfire

Paper cover for Spitfire

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MXRod

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2,800 posts

154 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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We ( me and grandson ) are coming to the end of the build of a balsa wood Spitfire , due to one or two mistakes , it will be a static model .as i doubt it would fly without going into self destruction mode
The next stage is the paper cover , simply , which adhesive do we use to stick the paper to the air fame
And then I presume we seal the paper before painting


dr_gn

16,400 posts

191 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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It’s normally tissue and dope for the covering:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zrx8v0oks1c

I’ve used some iron-on stuff called Litespan, not sure if you can paint it though.

Google is your best friend for this kind of thing. Good Luck!

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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When I built balsa and tissue models many years ago I used to use special tissue paste to attach the covering to the underlying frame and then tighten up the paper using cellulose dope (hmmmm... I can still remember that smell rotate)

It looks like Deluxe do a modern version of the paste.



And you can still get cellulose dope -


steveo3002

10,658 posts

181 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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stinks if i remember right

MXRod

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2,800 posts

154 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Perfect , thanks guys

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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steveo3002 said:
stinks if i remember right
In a nice way - but not recommended really as the fumes can really set your head spinning. I'm amazed I didn't become addicted as a 12 year old.

caterhamnut

429 posts

210 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I'm pretty sure the 'tissue paste' is old-style wallpaper paste..
Also used to make lots of these....anyone remember C02 engines? Beautiful and simple, they enables you to fly at 'scale' speeds as your balsa Cessna putt-putted in a wide circle. I have one or two, but can't find them anywhere now - filled with a C02 'soda' capsule. Czechoslovakian usually....


DIW35

4,158 posts

207 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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After covering a model with tissue, I seem to remember the initial tightening process involved spraying it with a mist of water. Once that was dry, a coat or two of dope was used to seal the holes naturally found in tissue paper.

robemcdonald

9,127 posts

203 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I went through a phase of building these kits a few years ago. I used deluxe materials eye dope. (Not sure if it’s whats mentioned above)

I applied it using one of those sprays you use for gardening.

Once the paper was saturated I used a hairdryer to dry it out. In the process the paper went taught. Worked pretty well.

GliderRider

2,527 posts

88 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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caterhamnut said:
I'm pretty sure the 'tissue paste' is old-style wallpaper paste..
Also used to make lots of these....anyone remember C02 engines? Beautiful and simple, they enables you to fly at 'scale' speeds as your balsa Cessna putt-putted in a wide circle. I have one or two, but can't find them anywhere now - filled with a C02 'soda' capsule. Czechoslovakian usually....

CO2 motors have been largely surpassed by electric power, with no UK manufacturers these days, although Gasparin still make them in the Czech Republic.

The motor you pictured is the Telco Turbotank 6000. This represents the pinnacle of CO2 technology tank-wise, as it has a layer of phase change wax around the tank to keep it warm as it emptied. Most CO2 motors get ice crystals forming on the tank as the contents get used up, and may even get CO2 ice crystals entering the motor, which greatly reduces the efficiency. A wax which freezes on cooling, it gives out heat (enthalpy), which maintains the temperature and pressure of the CO2, thus giving a longer run and more power.

Free Flight Supplies sell an adapter which allows CO2 motors to be filled from a large Sodastream cylinder rather than small Sparklets bulbs.

Telco was Ticket Equipment Limited COmpany, whose main product was mechanical ticket printing machines that bus companies used. The other UK maker of CO2 motors in the 1970s was Humbrol (as in modeller's paints) with their PMS1 and Shark motors. Keil Kraft made a CO2 motor in the 1950s, but that used a whole Sparklet bulb each flight.

Brown in the USA also made CO2 motors, in single and twin cylinder variants.

Another option if you want to fly using compressed gas, is to use the Airhogs compressed air motors. With a large tank, such as a lemonade bottle, in a suitable fuselage (e.g. Fairey Gannet or Short Skyvan), you should get quite a decent duration.