James May' Big Trouble in Model Britain

James May' Big Trouble in Model Britain

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Riley Blue

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21,615 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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BBC 4 at 9 pm this evening: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00030wh?utm_camp...

"Two-part documentary, introduced and narrated by model train enthusiast James May, that follows a year inside Hornby Hobbies - an iconic British toymaker on the brink of collapse. But this is no ordinary business series - this is a series about model train and plane obsessives, both inside and outside the company, all of whom desperately need the company to survive."

laters

324 posts

121 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Thanks for the reminder.
I had totally forgotten about this.

robemcdonald

9,127 posts

203 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Thanks for reminder, I’ll definitely be watching this.

Riley Blue

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21,615 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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The programme following it also looks interesting.

DavieW

798 posts

115 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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SKY plus'd. thumbup

Mr_Yogi

3,288 posts

262 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Did the camera man forget his glasses?

SAB888

3,439 posts

214 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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Mr_Yogi said:
Did the camera man forget his glasses?
I'm glad someone else noticed that. It's probably the worst camerawork I've ever seen in a programme. I know it was deliberate, but it's (bad) style over substance. There was more out-of-focus images than in-focus. It really detracted from what was otherwise a good programme. The camerawork ruined it.

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Edited by SAB888 on Thursday 7th March 13:08

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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Even though James is a nerd himself I love the comedy of his sarcasm.
Especially the bit about blurring out the teenagers face at Telford.
Can't wait for the fight......

robemcdonald

9,127 posts

203 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I ended up forwarding some of it. I think it portrayed modelling in a negative way overall. For example they made the guy building the Hellcat look as if he lived on his own. The overlong scene of him having a sandwich and slurping a cup of tea in silence being a particularly strong example of this.
Will watch the second episode, but only for the fight.

Eric Mc

122,853 posts

272 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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The one thing TV is best at is stereotyping.

Despite this, I will watch this as I like May and his style of presentation.

robemcdonald

9,127 posts

203 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I hope yesterday went okay Eric.

I agree about James I was just saying it wasn’t exactly a recruitment film...

Yertis

18,642 posts

273 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Can't say I noticed any dodgy camera-work – I thought the whole programme was excellent. Really excellent and a text-book study of what happens when people are brought in to run businesses that they don't understand, or more importantly, have a passion for. (Oddly enough, exactly echoing a conversation I'd had earlier that day with a brewery client.) How Simon Kohler kept his cool on learning that most of Hornby's historic tooling archive had been sent for scrap is beyond me.

I didn't think the programme itself portrayed modellers in a negative or stereotypical way – just panning the camera around at the two events shown was enough to confirm them anyway. It was quite clear that Hellcat-man had a wife and life outside modelling. Who among us hasn't at some point sat in silence with a cup of tea and thought "why the actual fk am I doing this?" (I probably spend more time doing this than actually completing the project in question.)

FourWheelDrift

89,587 posts

291 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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robemcdonald said:
I ended up forwarding some of it. I think it portrayed modelling in a negative way overall. For example they made the guy building the Hellcat look as if he lived on his own. The overlong scene of him having a sandwich and slurping a cup of tea in silence being a particularly strong example of this.
Will watch the second episode, but only for the fight.
They had already asked him about his wife and does she go into his modelling room, I think it just showed how dedicated he was. Brief lunch in thought then back to it.

silverfoxcc

7,829 posts

152 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Creased up about the guides opinions of the management
worth a visit to hear the non redacted version

All in all put across quite well, and on a personal note Dad used to work there....Nice staff shop...say no more

dr_gn

16,392 posts

191 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Didn't he say words to the effect that Hornby had recently recently moved from their spiritual home in Margate? I thought the true spiritual home of Hornby/Dinky was Binns Road Liverpool? Ironically, he mentioned Hattons, one of thier competitors, were based in Liverpool.

FourWheelDrift

89,587 posts

291 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Also, since you mentioned Hattons, did the guy at the show say their Class 66 was going to be £400?

Doofus

28,355 posts

180 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Yertis said:
Simon Kohler kept his cool on learning that most of Hornby's historic tooling archive had been sent for scrap is beyond me.
Nothing to be gained by losing your rag. The people resonsible are no longer there, and neither are the tools. Park that, move on.

ETA, I was half expecting the chap who'd been told to skip them to say "But I actually took them all home instead, and they're in my garage." smile

dr_gn

16,392 posts

191 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Doofus said:
Yertis said:
Simon Kohler kept his cool on learning that most of Hornby's historic tooling archive had been sent for scrap is beyond me.
Nothing to be gained by losing your rag. The people resonsible are no longer there, and neither are the tools. Park that, move on.
Then again why would you want to re-release obsolete models? OK I suppose they could release a cut-price range of less detailed stuff, but that's not particularly forward looking.

Doofus

28,355 posts

180 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I'm not into modelling, but presumably many railway modellers like old trains? As new people get into the hobby, having that old stuff available for them could have been a good and profitable opportunity for Hornby, given the costs are already sunk.

generationx

7,492 posts

112 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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dr_gn said:
Then again why would you want to re-release obsolete models? OK I suppose they could release a cut-price range of less detailed stuff, but that's not particularly forward looking.
They already do this with the "Railroad" range.

Was this actually worth a watch? Reviews seem very mixed, but I like James May's stuff usually.