decal help

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jumare

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446 posts

156 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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I've got an old Quartzo 935 model where some of the decal are coming off any recommendations for repairing this?



It's the decal on the sill, but on the other side, it's lifted off completely.

dr_gn

16,401 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Anything you do will risk damaging them beyond repair.

If you can't get replacements, and assuming they are waterslide decals, I'd try wicking a tiny dot of Johnson's Klear behind them to re-attach to the surface, and then put a dab of Microsol decal softener on top to help them conform to the surface, then leave to dry in a warm place for 24 hours.

If you don't have any Klear (which is likely unless you're a keen modeller!), you could also try dilute PVA as a substitute.

Basically you need to replace the decal glue with something that dries very thin, and clear.


jumare

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446 posts

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Thanks, I was advised to use acrylic varnish.

I did find this on the Grand Prix Models web site Micro Liquid Decal Film by Microscale.

I am tempted to try building a few resin kits there are some models I want that you can't buy ready built.

dr_gn

16,401 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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jumare said:
Thanks, I was advised to use acrylic varnish.

I did find this on the Grand Prix Models web site Micro Liquid Decal Film by Microscale.

I am tempted to try building a few resin kits there are some models I want that you can't buy ready built.
Klear is effectively a very thin acrylic varnish. If you use standard, un-thinned varnish, you risk the decals being raised off the surface slightly. I do have some Liquid Decal Film, but have never tried it; it may well be as effective as Klear or PVA.

jumare

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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I'll buy some Klear and decal film (and probably lots of other stuff as well...)

dr_gn

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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jumare said:
I'll buy some Klear and decal film (and probably lots of other stuff as well...)
You'll have to spend quite a bit on EBay to get genuine Klear; the original formula isn't available.

jumare

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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dr_gn said:
jumare said:
I'll buy some Klear and decal film (and probably lots of other stuff as well...)
You'll have to spend quite a bit on EBay to get genuine Klear; the original formula isn't available.
I was gong to order from Grand Prix models, https://www.grandprixmodels.com/MSKK-Micro-Kristal...


dr_gn

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191 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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jumare said:
dr_gn said:
jumare said:
I'll buy some Klear and decal film (and probably lots of other stuff as well...)
You'll have to spend quite a bit on EBay to get genuine Klear; the original formula isn't available.
I was gong to order from Grand Prix models, https://www.grandprixmodels.com/MSKK-Micro-Kristal...
That's not the same as Johnson's Klear:

http://www.scalemodelguide.com/hints-tips/general/...

Kristal Kleer is similar to PVA, in that its a thick white liquid that is transparent when set - it may well be PVA based.

jumare

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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You're not kidding about price £54 for 500ml original bottle, found somebody selling 30ml for £2.25 (£4 p&p) will see what it's like.

kenny.R400

1,212 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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If the decals are in 2's on the car and one is ok then you could photograph the good one, shrink it to actual size and then print it out on waterslide transfer paper.

Easier than it sounds too!!

jumare

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Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Good idea but a lot of decal paper for a small decal.

kenny.R400

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247 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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jumare said:
Good idea but a lot of decal paper for a small decal.
I paid £1 per A 4 sheet.

jumare

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Thursday 13th September 2018
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kenny.R400 said:
jumare said:
Good idea but a lot of decal paper for a small decal.
I paid £1 per A 4 sheet.
Have you got a link? Can think of other decals to make.

kenny.R400

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247 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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I paid 1.35p for the first sheet I practiced on from Ebay. Then bought this pack.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inkjet-Waterslide-Decal-P...

This site seems a bit cheaper and there's a video of how to use them

https://www.craftovator.co.uk/waterslide-decal-pap...

kenny.R400

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247 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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I paid 1.35p for the first sheet I practiced on from Ebay. Then bought this pack.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inkjet-Waterslide-Decal-P...

This site seems a bit cheaper and there's a video of how to use them

https://www.craftovator.co.uk/waterslide-decal-pap...

tight5

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166 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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kenny.R400 said:
I paid 1.35p for the first sheet I practiced on from Ebay. Then bought this pack.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inkjet-Waterslide-Decal-P...

This site seems a bit cheaper and there's a video of how to use them

https://www.craftovator.co.uk/waterslide-decal-pap...
How did this work out for you ?
This could be the answer to a problem for me.

kenny.R400

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247 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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tight5 said:
How did this work out for you ?
This could be the answer to a problem for me.
It worked quite well, I was more than happy with the results when finished.
Below are a few pics for you to judge yourself. Top pic is of an original Waltzer car. Bottom 2 are water slides I applied to the 1/24th scale model cars.

I also used very thin photo paper too on the outside of the ride for the artwork then varnished it. Both methods great but the water slides on things like cars etc. are just that bit more like it's been painted.

Hope this helps and looking forward to hearing if it works for you.
Cheers









Edited by kenny.R400 on Friday 14th September 08:36

tight5

2,747 posts

166 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Looks good.
I'll give it a go.
Cheers, bud.